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jp2
response 200 of 293: Mark Unseen   Feb 21 01:17 UTC 2002

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other
response 201 of 293: Mark Unseen   Feb 21 05:30 UTC 2002

It takes less than half a minute to add someone to your .nowrite file, 
and even less if you write a simple shell script to do it.
 
rcurl
response 202 of 293: Mark Unseen   Feb 21 05:53 UTC 2002

You would not have had to waste 20 minutes if you had excused yourself
from that chat and taken care of the problem. 
mcnally
response 203 of 293: Mark Unseen   Feb 21 06:48 UTC 2002

  She would not have to have done anything if an obnoxious user hadn't
  accosted her.  keesan is not the villain here..
oval
response 204 of 293: Mark Unseen   Feb 21 06:51 UTC 2002

but she _is_ the whiner here.
other
response 205 of 293: Mark Unseen   Feb 21 07:18 UTC 2002

To put this in absolutist perspective, the effort keesan put into 
complaining about this abuser is far beyond what would have been required 
for her to eliminate the problem he represented to her.
glenda
response 206 of 293: Mark Unseen   Feb 21 12:43 UTC 2002

Sindi, did you tell the person that you did not want to chat right now?  If
you did and s/he persisted than complaining is appropriate.  If you did not,
how is the person supposed to know?  Granted the requests should have stopped
after 2-4, but maybe the person is clueless to how it all works.
jp2
response 207 of 293: Mark Unseen   Feb 21 15:41 UTC 2002

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brighn
response 208 of 293: Mark Unseen   Feb 21 15:49 UTC 2002

#205> Yes, but it wouldn't have gotten her nearly the attention.
#204> Hear, hear.
keesan
response 209 of 293: Mark Unseen   Feb 21 16:43 UTC 2002

Is there some way to send a telegram while I am chatting with someone else?
The people I chat with often have trouble understanding English and this
particular one would have been offended if I tried to hang up to do so, or
change my plan, so I just kept hitting Ctl-L every time the chat request
scrambled the screen (every few seconds).  (It took about 20 minutes to say
goodbye after that, he wanted to chat for just another 30 min, but I finally
promised to be online Friday at noon - it is hard to find someone to chat with
you in your own language.)  After changing my write permissions, I sent a
short and polite letter to smart007 explaining what had happened and
suggesting that they request a chat only once, and first do a who to find out
what the other person is doing at the moment.  Did not hear back.
oval
response 210 of 293: Mark Unseen   Feb 21 16:53 UTC 2002

suspend the process. 
slynne
response 211 of 293: Mark Unseen   Feb 21 17:56 UTC 2002

Cant you shell out of write with a !?
tpryan
response 212 of 293: Mark Unseen   Feb 21 18:11 UTC 2002

        I keep chats and writes off until I am done with other
things and are ready to recieve them.
keesan
response 213 of 293: Mark Unseen   Feb 21 20:13 UTC 2002

I have had a few chatters get offended when they tried to reach me and I was
in Pine (cannot get chat requests while in Pine).  One clever guy sent me an
email that he was online.
Can you shell out of chat?
mdw
response 214 of 293: Mark Unseen   Feb 21 21:35 UTC 2002

^Z works with talk.  use "fg" to get back to it.
        !man tcsh
for more info on fg, ^Z, and all that.
chat/write support ! escapes, and I think it's possible to suspend them too.
keesan
response 215 of 293: Mark Unseen   Feb 21 21:46 UTC 2002

Thanks, I will tell the chatter to wait 30 sec next time while I shell.
katie
response 216 of 293: Mark Unseen   Feb 22 01:01 UTC 2002

For the record, I still think the person who invented 'talkdaemon'
should be lined up and shot.
jazz
response 217 of 293: Mark Unseen   Feb 22 04:37 UTC 2002

        Mesg's author, presumably, earned his pardon.
tsty
response 218 of 293: Mark Unseen   Feb 22 15:28 UTC 2002

   a    !mesg N    and then a quick   restart of your    chat <loginid>
will stop the problem. that also presumes yu haven't sent a tel to
your annoyer already.
keesan
response 219 of 293: Mark Unseen   Feb 22 17:07 UTC 2002

Thanks, that sounds much easier than exiting chat and running the change
program.  I did not know you could even shell from chat.
jp2
response 220 of 293: Mark Unseen   Feb 22 17:59 UTC 2002

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jhudson
response 221 of 293: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 02:06 UTC 2002

Because only one kernel syscall can run at a time.
remmers
response 222 of 293: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 15:44 UTC 2002

Not true.  If *that* were so, lots of other things would be slow,
and a system call that didn't return would bring everything to a
stop.
mdw
response 223 of 293: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 04:00 UTC 2002

Actually, only one kernel syscall can run at a time (at least under
sunos), but that's a moot point, since long-running system calls
typically block on some event and allow other things, including other
system calls, to use the CPU.  None of this is particularly relevant to
why ps et al are slow -- the real reason is because sunos doesn't offer
the accellerators that later systems have to access kernel structures.
In SunOS, everything is done using "nlist" and "/dev/kmem"; on many more
recent systems, there is a kernel ksyms data structure and things in
/dev and /procfs that access the kernel ksyms data, and even more
usefully, stuff in the kernel that provides access to the process table,
per-user kernel data, and other stuff without the bother of going
through kmem.  This is just one of the things that contributes to kernel
bloat in linux, solaris, etc.
keesan
response 224 of 293: Mark Unseen   Feb 25 15:38 UTC 2002

Valerie kindly pointed out that there is no need to set up your own twit
filter, you can type 'ignore username'.   I presume this holds for an
individual session.  Is there some way to make it permanent for use when
someone has trashed all the items in a conference?  I. e., can I put the line
in some file that runs whenever I use bbs?
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