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bru
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response 200 of 278:
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Jun 4 13:58 UTC 2004 |
That is because I have heard they are both supposed to be Sarmatians, not
Celtic. Sarmatians from Iran are supposed to have had warrior women as well
as men.
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twenex
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response 201 of 278:
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Jun 4 15:05 UTC 2004 |
Sarmatians? rotfl.
Please let me know if it gets any more laughable.
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anderyn
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response 202 of 278:
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Jun 4 18:48 UTC 2004 |
Well, they are Sarmatians in the novelization. Yeah. (Though at least they
are still doing the Romano-Britain thing, I believe. I *may* go see it.)
I hate hate hate Excalibur. What fecking person would have Arthur's mother
doing a belly-dance?! And then the sex in full plate armor? Sheah. That lost
me right there. Stupid Borman. Stupid movie. Stupid stupid. The only good
parts were in the very middle when Arthur was fighting King Lot. (I am a fan
of King Arthur. I have about as many versions of it as could be imagined. I
get very testy when people mess with it.)
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happyboy
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response 203 of 278:
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Jun 5 00:45 UTC 2004 |
ooooH don't get testy!!!
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gregb
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response 204 of 278:
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Jun 6 04:59 UTC 2004 |
I see there's yet /another/ King Arthur movie coming out this Summer.
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edina
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response 205 of 278:
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Jun 7 17:09 UTC 2004 |
Yes - Clive Owen as Arthur and Keira Knightly as Guinevere. I'm looking
forward to it.
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gregb
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response 206 of 278:
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Jun 7 18:36 UTC 2004 |
Went to see Harry Potter yesterday with some friends. I wish I had a
glowing review like I did for the last two movies, but this one I was a
bit dissapointed. Yes, there was plenty of action and drama, but this
was a much darker chapter. Right from the get-go, there was nothing
happy about this film. I understand that the book is very close to the
movie (or vice-versa) so I guess it's supposed to be that way. But even
the ending didn't have that "feel good" quality that embodied the other
flicks. However, I still reccomend it for viewing and I'll certainly be
adding it to my DVD collection when it comes out.
I've heard that this will be the last Potter movie. If that true, I'll
be sorry to see it go. On the other hand, if the remaining novels are
as dark as Prisinor..., I won't mind it too much.
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bru
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response 207 of 278:
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Jun 7 18:40 UTC 2004 |
It isn't the last movie, they started filming the next one 4 weeks ago. same
cast.
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krj
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response 208 of 278:
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Jun 7 19:07 UTC 2004 |
SHREK 2 held up well on a second viewing; lots more little details to
pick up on now that I know the ending, plus a host of additional
comic bits stuffed into every frame. For one not-much-of-a-spoiler
example: after picking up the "Medieval Meal" at the drive-through,
Prince Charming is fidgeting with a cardboard crown like the ones
Burger King used to give away to kids.
Puss in Boots and the Fairy Godmother are just amazing to watch,
in terms of character detail. The Fairy Godmother might be the
most realistic animated human I've ever seen -- except, of course,
that she flies around.
The Bichon Frise (white puppy), on the other hand, is very crude in
its animation, much more so than any other character. There has to
be a reason for this, but I can't figure out what it is!
I think I'm going to see this another couple of times in first-run.
Last time I did that was with GHOSTBUSTERS 20 years ago.
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edina
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response 209 of 278:
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Jun 7 21:16 UTC 2004 |
Re 206 The latest HP very much is like the book. The whole point is that
there isn't a happy ending and it's at this point that things start getting
"complicated".
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mcnally
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response 210 of 278:
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Jun 7 21:54 UTC 2004 |
re #208: My reaction to Shrek 2 was certainly not as enthusiastic
as Ken's. Having seen it over the weekend I can't imagine wanting
to see it multiple times in the theater. It wasn't horrible but
even with decidedly modest expectations I found it didn't really
live up to them.
Most grating at all, at least to me, was the film's use of music.
The original Shrek wasn't a subtle film either, but the person who
picked the music seemed to know how to enhance a scene with the right
musical choice (for example the scene which uses John Cale's cover
of Leonard Cohen's "Hallelujah") I couldn't find a single scene in
Shrek 2 that benefitted from the accompanying music, and some of the
musical choices were cringe-inducing -- the big "Livin' la Vida Loca"
musical number at the end and the action scene inexplicably set to
a decidedly inferior cover of the Buzzcock's classic "Ever Fallen in
Love" both spring to mind.
As for the jokes, I will admit that they piled in a *lot* of pop
culture references, many of which I probably missed. The ones I had
time to notice, however, didn't seem particularly insightful or
amusing to me, they just seemed to be there with no real point to
them. "Oh look, it's another 'Matrix' reference, or is it supposed to
be a reference to Shrek 1's bullet-time gag?" or "Wow. 'Sir Justin'
looks just like Justin Timberlake. How hilarious.. <yawn>"
But don't let me suck all the joy out of it for any of the rest of you.
More than likely you'll have a good time; I seem to be in a distinct
minority of people who didn't think it was particularly good.
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rcurl
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response 211 of 278:
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Jun 8 00:36 UTC 2004 |
One problem seems to be you know too much about current pop music.
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richard
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response 212 of 278:
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Jun 8 06:09 UTC 2004 |
re #202-- Twila, what was wrong with Arthur's mother being a bellydancer
in Excalibur. The scene is a flashback, showing Arthur's mother when
Arthur was conceived, when she was young and desireable. Why is it
necessary that Arthur's mother have come from high society? If Arthur's
mother was a commoner, in these dark ages, and was good looking, she may
well have made money the ways in which good looking women made money in
those days. Let us not confuse modern times with the dark ages. I think
Boorman did not want to look at the probable past of Arthur's family with
rose colored glasses and it was commendable
Did you also disapprove of the incest between arthur and morgaine, that
produces mordred? Other legends have Mordred the son of Lot. I guess it was
a bit revisionist but I still liked it
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twenex
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response 213 of 278:
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Jun 8 10:32 UTC 2004 |
Richard - it's you who's confusing modern times with the dark ages. Nobility
married nobility then, no exceptions. If Arthur *was* the son of a common
woman, the only way he would have been able to gain the throne would have been
to hide his origins, otherwise he would have been excluded on the principle
of being a bastard. Mediaeval aristocracy marrying commoners is a fiction
which suits the romanticism of our age, which isn't at all like the brutal
times they lived in.
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twenex
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response 214 of 278:
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Jun 8 10:34 UTC 2004 |
For a realistic idea of how the well-born treated the low-born, see the prima
nocte scenes in Braveheart.
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pgreen
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response 215 of 278:
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Jun 8 11:31 UTC 2004 |
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albaugh
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response 216 of 278:
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Jun 8 14:18 UTC 2004 |
mcnally, who knows if Shrek 2 is a good film or not. But it was certainly
enjoyable - at least for most people - and the fact that you didn't derive
must enjoyment from it won't wreck it for other people, believe me.
I mean, c'mon, giant cookie named "Mongo" - that's as good as it gets! :-)
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twenex
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response 217 of 278:
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Jun 8 14:19 UTC 2004 |
"Why can't we all just, get along?"
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pgreen
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response 218 of 278:
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Jun 8 14:48 UTC 2004 |
Point.
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mcnally
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response 219 of 278:
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Jun 8 16:18 UTC 2004 |
It'd be pretty dull if this was the "everyone agrees about the movies"
item. I'm just presenting a contrasting view on "Shrek 2".
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drew
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response 220 of 278:
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Jun 8 18:43 UTC 2004 |
Re #213:
What about that bit where Arthur pulls the sword out of the rock while
no one else could?
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tod
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response 221 of 278:
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Jun 8 18:54 UTC 2004 |
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twenex
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response 222 of 278:
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Jun 8 19:08 UTC 2004 |
Yep - and the device of having Arthur pull the Sword out the Stone is probably
simply a mythical or fictional one to get around #213.
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tod
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response 223 of 278:
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Jun 8 19:12 UTC 2004 |
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anderyn
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response 224 of 278:
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Jun 8 19:31 UTC 2004 |
Richard: re212: Hmmm. Guess my suspension of disbelief is way lower than yours
about belly-dancers in England. In 500 or thereabouts. Nope. Sorry, I don't
think the Celts were really into belly-dancing in Middle Eastern costumes.
And Igraine was definitely a Queen. So nope. Again, I'm not buying it. And
I still hate the "rape" by Uther while in full plate. Dumb dumb dumb. I am
a full Sir Thomas Malory Le Mort d'Arthur canon-fiend (or, if pressed, I'd
go with Giraldus or the Welsh Triads, all of which have some pretty definitive
Arthurian material), but Borman just doesn't cut it. (Neither does Marion
Zimmer Bradley's uber-feminist Mists of Avalon, to be fair.) I admit that
the real (if there was a real true person who was Arthur) would have been
probably a Romano-British war leader, but I happen to go with the full
mythological Malory figure for my Arthur.
About the music in "Shrek 2" -- it didn't seem obtrusive during the movie,
to the point that I'm still not sure where most of the music on the soundtrack
album was actually used (I know where maybe 5 songs were in the movie,
"Accidentally in Love" at the beginning, "Funkytown" and the Tom Waits song,
and of course both fairy godmother numbers and "Livin' La Vida Loca"...). I
bought the album because I wanted to get the version of "La Vida" (I'm a
sucker for Puss and Donkey, what can I say? I want to get boots for my cat!)
but I like more than threequarters of it quite a bit. I particularly like the
Pete Yorn song, after the Fairy Godmother's version of "Holding Out..." and
the Counting Crows song. I was particularly shocked to find myself actually
semi-enjoying the Tom Waits song, since I don't like Tom Waits's voice at all,
and I don't do black depressive songs.
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