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gelinas
response 200 of 222: Mark Unseen   Jun 18 04:13 UTC 2000

No, it's not.  The three-fingered salute is required because it seemed a good
idea to Microsoft.
mcnally
response 201 of 222: Mark Unseen   Jun 18 06:41 UTC 2000

  Actually, that *is* the reasoning behind the Ctrl-Alt-Del combo being used
  for NT login.  Since that's one of the few (only?) keypress combos that a
  user program can't catch, it's a great choice for login.  It's one of the
  better non-obvious ideas in NT
twinkie
response 202 of 222: Mark Unseen   Jun 18 07:58 UTC 2000

re: 200 -- I really hope you're being sarcastic. Otherwise, I'd suggest
finding someone with a two-by-four and asking them to smack the ignorance out
of you.

gypsi
response 203 of 222: Mark Unseen   Jun 18 08:53 UTC 2000

Re #201 - You would have laughed at me during my first day at UMI.  To start
my computer (NT), it told me to hit Ctrl-Alt-Del to bring up the login
prompt.  I thought it was a practical joke until my boss assured me that it
would not restart the computer.  =)
tpryan
response 204 of 222: Mark Unseen   Jun 18 13:15 UTC 2000

        I continue to get non-connections upon dialing in, also.
gelinas
response 205 of 222: Mark Unseen   Jun 18 17:16 UTC 2000

No, I wasn't being sarcastic.  Microsoft does a lot of things that make
absolutely NO sense to anyone else.  Why not this?  #201 explains something
I didn't know, much more usefully than a 2x4 would.
mdw
response 206 of 222: Mark Unseen   Jun 18 21:57 UTC 2000

Actually, under windows & dos, it's perfectly feasible to catch
ctrl-alt-del.  I gather under NT it's a "SAK" key - the one that engages
the attention of some "trusted" part of the OS that is presumably harder
to compromise, but I sure wouldn't want to bet it's impossible to
compromise.
i
response 207 of 222: Mark Unseen   Jun 19 04:03 UTC 2000

My understanding is that an OS could make *any* keystroke combination
uncatchable...so long as it's a real protected-mode OS that doesn't let
applications programs play with the keyboard controller, interrupt tables,
etc. (like DOS, Win3.X, etc. do).  Ctrl-Alt-Del is treated as special by
the PC BIOS - but the BIOS stuff pretty much goes away when a protected
OS takes over.  The big reason to use Ctrl-Alt-Del as the uncatchable
key combination in NT is that *very* few old DOS, Win3.X, etc. programs
that one might want to run under NT have any legit need to intercept it.
scott
response 208 of 222: Mark Unseen   Jun 20 20:07 UTC 2000

The modem server is finally able to get the rest of its brain from the new
gryps box, so modems should be working normally again.
tpryan
response 209 of 222: Mark Unseen   Jun 20 21:59 UTC 2000

        Thank you for the fix-up.  I noticed it this afternoon.
aruba
response 210 of 222: Mark Unseen   Jun 21 02:52 UTC 2000

Thanks Scott!
janc
response 211 of 222: Mark Unseen   Jun 21 04:38 UTC 2000

Thanks Scott.  Also thanks to Charles (arthurp) who built the new gryps
for us.
aruba
response 212 of 222: Mark Unseen   Jun 21 04:51 UTC 2000

THanks Charles!
jor
response 213 of 222: Mark Unseen   Jun 21 18:09 UTC 2000

        can't telnet in
        in via modem
        only two users
        beep beep
carson
response 214 of 222: Mark Unseen   Jun 21 18:24 UTC 2000

(time for a "look who's on" item!)
jor
response 215 of 222: Mark Unseen   Jun 21 19:00 UTC 2000

        "Can not stop the Dancin' Chickens"

        Think I'll try TalkBack or whatever it is
cmcgee
response 216 of 222: Mark Unseen   Jun 21 19:40 UTC 2000

I couldnt get to Grex from UM using telnet.  I tried several times over a two
hour period.  Connection was refused, and connection timed out.  Came home,
dialed in, no problem.
tpryan
response 217 of 222: Mark Unseen   Jun 21 21:39 UTC 2000

        And here I thought the drop in agora activity was a big parcell
of people waiting for the summer edition to show up.
scott
response 218 of 222: Mark Unseen   Jun 22 00:51 UTC 2000

Nope, net is down.
cyklone
response 219 of 222: Mark Unseen   Jun 22 12:05 UTC 2000

Anyone working on this? Is mail affected?
jor
response 220 of 222: Mark Unseen   Jun 22 13:52 UTC 2000

        just tested email: negative function
scott
response 221 of 222: Mark Unseen   Jun 22 14:36 UTC 2000

Not sure if anybody is on this.  Normally scg would be handling it, but he's
on his way to the west coast at the moment.  STeve sent mail to our provider,
but the provider may be the place with the problems.  Hm.
drew
response 222 of 222: Mark Unseen   Jun 22 21:11 UTC 2000

I hope the mail was sent from somewhere other than grex.
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