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brighn
response 200 of 216: Mark Unseen   Oct 31 20:32 UTC 2000

Well, if you have two people, and one kills the other, then who's going to
punish the first one? =}

Capital punishment requires a group of at least four people to make any sense.
with three, it's still fairly silly (Joe kills Mary, then Sally kills Joe,
and now Sally's alone, with her act looking as much like revenge as
remediation; the defense of capital punishment is that it prevents other
murders by bringing about the fear of such retaliation, otherwise, it's just
revenge). Actually, five. (Under 4: Joe kills Mary. Sally kills Joe to warn
Steve of what happens when you kill. Steve doesn't care, and kills Sally, and
now there's nobody to punish him.)

Abortion requires one person. There was a tragic holocaust, and now there's
only one woman left in the world. She finds a sperm bank. In a sadomasochistic
drama, she impregnates herself and then aborts, repeatedly. No society needed.
(Brighn spent too much time watching Twilight Zone and Night Gallery as a
kid.)
jp2
response 201 of 216: Mark Unseen   Oct 31 21:00 UTC 2000

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brighn
response 202 of 216: Mark Unseen   Nov 1 15:17 UTC 2000

The father is not required (Reread 200) -- only somebody to have donated sperm
at some time in the past, and not necessarily to the woman in question. A
fetus is not a child. A doctor is not required, either for the artificial
insemination or the abortion.
jp2
response 203 of 216: Mark Unseen   Nov 2 03:12 UTC 2000

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rcurl
response 204 of 216: Mark Unseen   Nov 2 04:52 UTC 2000

...a fetus.
brighn
response 205 of 216: Mark Unseen   Nov 2 16:08 UTC 2000

203: The sperm donor need not be alive at the time of conception. Dead people
don't have a lot of say in these issues.

And, for the last time, fetus <> child
johnnie
response 206 of 216: Mark Unseen   Nov 2 18:38 UTC 2000

And if you can get all those anti-abortion folks to agree to that, all 
the disagreement will go away.   
brighn
response 207 of 216: Mark Unseen   Nov 2 18:53 UTC 2000

Doubt it.
jp2
response 208 of 216: Mark Unseen   Nov 2 19:29 UTC 2000

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mdw
response 209 of 216: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 01:08 UTC 2000

You also need air, water, and a whole lot of food.  Could be all plant,
although many mothers choose not to do that.  The average pig is
definitely a whole lot more brainy than the average fetus.
jp2
response 210 of 216: Mark Unseen   Nov 3 02:26 UTC 2000

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other
response 211 of 216: Mark Unseen   Nov 5 17:43 UTC 2000

a>b, b>c -> a>c

c=your average person of the sort who would make the claim in resp:210
remmers
response 212 of 216: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 18:11 UTC 2000

Re 210: Could be, but most Democrats are well above average.
polygon
response 213 of 216: Mark Unseen   Nov 6 18:35 UTC 2000

I would just guess that Republican activists as a group, and Democratic
activists as a group, are both considerably more brainy than the
remainder of the population as a group.

Almost ANY group which requires some thought and action to become part of
is likely to have a higher intelligence level than the passive majority of
the population.
md
response 214 of 216: Mark Unseen   Nov 8 12:34 UTC 2000

I am well above average, but the attitude expressed in #212 is Why I Am 
Not A Democrat.
remmers
response 215 of 216: Mark Unseen   Nov 8 17:03 UTC 2000

You mean you refuse to align yourself with people who make jokes?
rcurl
response 216 of 216: Mark Unseen   Nov 8 18:25 UTC 2000

Re #214: that's not much of a claim - about 50% of all people are above
average. (Maybe he is from Lake Wobegon?)
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