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Grex > Coop13 > #370: Nominations for the 2007 Grex Board of Directors | |
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mcnally
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response 199 of 236:
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Jan 2 00:24 UTC 2007 |
However excellent his technical credentials (of which I have no real
knowledge), I would not support mic's request to be re-added to staff
after his recent statements -- it's clear to me that he lacks (and
doesn't even understand the need for) several key attributes.
Technical people often make the mistake of thinking that technical
skills are of paramount importance. I've been guilty in the past of
making poor choices based on similar assumptions. But the reality of
the situation is that when the job is bigger than a one-man job,
other attributes become more important -- much more important, actually.
Grex's technology needs, frankly, are fairly modest. What we really
need on staff are people with good judgment and people who can work
well with other people as part of a team. (That's one reason why I'm
saddened to see John Remmers resign from staff.) It's also important,
I think, for the staff person to be stable, credible, and respected by
the Grex community.
I know that it will offend mic to hear this, and I suspect (based on
his reaction to other recent developments) that he's probably going to
take it very personally and hold a grudge for a very long time, but I
think it would be a dreadfully bad idea to restore his staff privileges,
NOT because of the incident with giving cross root, but because of the
behavior he's show SINCE then, which has been notably lacking in the
attributes we want in a staffer -- calm good judgment, ability to get
along as part of a team, credibility, stability, and respect.
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cmcgee
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response 200 of 236:
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Jan 2 00:29 UTC 2007 |
re: 196 I think Dan's willingness to make a commitment to being a board
member is worth something.
I'd like to see Dan on staff again. He seems to have recognized that his
"thin-skin" responses need to be modulated, and he seems to be willing to work
on that.
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spooked
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response 201 of 236:
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Jan 2 00:44 UTC 2007 |
I'm not offended in the least actually.
It is clear that Grex does not want to address the real issues. I have
tried, unselfishly, to highlight them. I was not sticking around for
personal reasons - I have zilch to gain from being a Grex staffer (a fact
seemingly lost on many).
Good luck 'working' with STeve, Marcus, and the dynamic-duo arse-patting
crew.
You had a choice to move forward - unfortunately you chose to stay with
the past. And, that's your choice. It is sad, but it is one I thought
you were - as a group - non-visionary enough to make.
I lose nothing, and you stick with your cuddly status-quo --- the
wonderful Grex community of non-striving folk.
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slynne
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response 202 of 236:
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Jan 2 01:34 UTC 2007 |
FWIW, I also think that cross's willingness to be on the board is
something that should be considered.
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gelinas
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response 203 of 236:
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Jan 2 01:52 UTC 2007 |
Let's see if he completes his term, eh?
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spooked
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response 204 of 236:
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Jan 2 02:56 UTC 2007 |
Sweep the truth under the carpet... the nice persian carpet.
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cross
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response 205 of 236:
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Jan 2 03:43 UTC 2007 |
Regarding #196; Fair enough.
Regarding #203; I plan on it; the only question is whether I get deployed or
reactivated. If that happens, then all bets are off. But honestly, that's
not up to me. :-)
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mcnally
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response 206 of 236:
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Jan 2 04:17 UTC 2007 |
re #201:
> I'm not offended in the least actually.
Good, if true. Hold onto that thought, as I've got more to say..
> It is clear that Grex does not want to address the real issues. I have
> tried, unselfishly, to highlight them. I was not sticking around for
> personal reasons - I have zilch to gain from being a Grex staffer (a fact
> seemingly lost on many).
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> Good luck 'working' with STeve, Marcus, and the dynamic-duo arse-patting
> crew.
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> You had a choice to move forward - unfortunately you chose to stay with
> the past. And, that's your choice. It is sad, but it is one I thought
> you were - as a group - non-visionary enough to make.
One of the reasons I really wish you'd shut up about this is that I happen
to agree with you to a limited extent -- I think Grex has a problem with
its staff culture and now is the time to start doing something about it.
I'd like to actually have a serious conversation about this, but you're a
one-man wrecking crew for your own position -- the way you're going about
arguing in favor of reform is probably the most effective way to ensure
that nobody takes the reform position seriously.
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tod
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response 207 of 236:
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Jan 2 04:40 UTC 2007 |
I take it seriously regardless of spooked's venting. I'm sure most others
don't based on their responses, though. People are fixated on personalities
and individuals rather than coming up with a fair process for future would-be
staff volunteers. I'm trying to ignore all the psychoanalyzing everyone is
enjoying only because I think everyone is repeating themselves mostly. Well,
I don't think Mike is repeating himself. He's like E.F.Hutton.
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cross
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response 208 of 236:
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Jan 2 05:01 UTC 2007 |
I've got to agree with Todd here.
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spooked
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response 209 of 236:
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Jan 2 09:56 UTC 2007 |
Sorry, I like to make myself heard - especially because I know I speak the
truth. I will shut up, because as I said I have nothing to gain from
being on staff. I was sacrificing myself for the good of Grex, and I hope
for its sake it wakes up to itself.
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jadecat
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response 210 of 236:
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Jan 2 14:16 UTC 2007 |
resp:209 Mic, you make a really crappy Martyr.
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cmcgee
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response 211 of 236:
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Jan 2 15:26 UTC 2007 |
Todd, "most others" who do take it seriously may be behaving like me: trying
to stay out the fray until mic finishes venting.
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spooked
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response 212 of 236:
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Jan 2 16:02 UTC 2007 |
*giggles* I'm not the perfect kitten, Anne - but I try ;)
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jadecat
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response 213 of 236:
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Jan 2 17:20 UTC 2007 |
resp:212 please, kittens have charm going for them...
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tod
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response 214 of 236:
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Jan 2 18:04 UTC 2007 |
They sound great. Give me a sack of em.
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spooked
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response 215 of 236:
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Jan 2 20:16 UTC 2007 |
*giggles* I can charm, Annie -- it does depend who and when I feel like
it, though ;)
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cmcgee
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response 216 of 236:
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Jan 2 20:38 UTC 2007 |
jadecat he thinks you're flirting with him.
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spooked
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response 217 of 236:
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Jan 2 21:02 UTC 2007 |
cmcgee: you're a psychoanalysing toss
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tod
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response 218 of 236:
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Jan 2 21:58 UTC 2007 |
Bad kitty
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spooked
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response 219 of 236:
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Jan 2 22:23 UTC 2007 |
*purrs*
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jadecat
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response 220 of 236:
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Jan 3 14:16 UTC 2007 |
resp:216 Eww.
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spooked
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response 221 of 236:
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Jan 4 00:46 UTC 2007 |
I think Anne knows I'm being sarcastic, and am not flirting with her :)
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spooked
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response 222 of 236:
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Jan 4 00:48 UTC 2007 |
Now that I have finished venting, does Grex realise that clearly things
are broken - and, thus, change (for improvement) is necessary?
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tod
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response 223 of 236:
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Jan 4 06:51 UTC 2007 |
What were you saying is broken?
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