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klg
response 196 of 475: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 19:41 UTC 2004

Visit funeral parlors.
keesan
response 197 of 475: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 19:57 UTC 2004

I don't think my friend wants to meet men who need medical care.  Her daughter
seems to be doing okay taking care of herself and her mother, who writes that
she is getting too pampered.  She has never mentioned liking to play cards.
She likes to go hiking and swimming and dancing.  But I will suggest that she
volunteer some place if she is still bored since her daughter does not have
the energy to do things they usually do while visiting.  

Tim, how is your mother doing at her new place?
A friend writes that his mother still hates being in a nursing home.  They
have taken away her junk food because her diabetes is not under control.
rcurl
response 198 of 475: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 20:35 UTC 2004

Florida is a terrible place for elderly women to find male companionship.
The male/female ratio is pretty low. 
keesan
response 199 of 475: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 20:39 UTC 2004

I was starting to feel bored myself.  Then someone called about a translation
from Czech to English.  She is Slovak and said she cannot do it herself for
teh translation agency because she is not certified.  I am not certified
either but I translate.  I think my English is better.  I spelled out my other
email address when mail sent here did not get through (the agency was bouncing
a lot of mail today for some reason) and still never got mail.  She heard 'j'
as 'g'.  Finally I got the mail here.  For some reason she converted from the
website format (most likely HTML) to WORD.  I could have used Lynx to convert
Czech HTML to something that looks like Czech but is missing diacritic marks,
that I can read and print.  Instead I used Antiword to convert the WORD file
to text that I could read but not print.  My HP 500 can print CP852 but only
if I have the manual for it and that is at my apartment and I am here.

So I printed it out with the wrong upper ASCII characters, and some of them
turned out to be blanks, and it was pretty unreadable, so I gave up and tried
viewing with WORD 97, and everything except the bold text was underlined with
squiggly red lines.  ???  I then viewed instead of Wordviewer from MS and it
all looks normal.  Why the red lines?  This is supposed to be a viewer for
WOrd 97 and earlier.  Maybe they have updated it?

THe translation should not take half as long as it took to get the document.
She also sent the URL but it does not contain the text that she sent me, or
the link to it that she said to look for.  

The translation has something to do with Tupperware and direct marketing.
I wonder if E. Europe is now getting hit hard by telemarketers.

Jim is still trying to puzzle out his school email address, which is different
from his address for getting grades, which is different from his ftpspace
login.  Today I got a few of his failures forwarded to me.  I am glad I am
not dyslexic.  He is @stu.wccnet.org but tried @wccnet.org and
@student.wccnet.org.  Repeatedly.

Hot flash.  Got to go translate WORD to text (she cannot handle importing
WP51/DOS either).  WORD was 50K, text 6K including spaces.
keesan
response 200 of 475: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 20:40 UTC 2004

My brother's wife's widowed father lives in Florida now and for some reason
has a girlfriend (sic) in North Carolina.  He is in a retirement community.
(Rane slipped in).  Is the male/female ratio worse in Florida retirement
communities than in Michigan ones?
cmcgee
response 201 of 475: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 21:00 UTC 2004

Direct marketing is not at all related to telemarketing.  Direct marketing
is face-to-face.
rcurl
response 202 of 475: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 21:04 UTC 2004

Good question. There are a lot of elderly women living alone in Florida
because because so many couples go there to retire and the man dies before
the women. However that doesn't have to mean the *ratio* of men/women is
lower than in Michigan. Hmmmmm.... I will have to defer to "real data",
which I don't have. The only reason I can now think of why the ratio might
be lower in Florida is that the equitable climate also helps elderly women
live longer (and they are not as easily bored as men living there).? 

Squiggly red underlining is the WORD automatic spellchecker. I guess
your's doesn't understand Czech.

tod
response 203 of 475: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 21:25 UTC 2004

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keesan
response 204 of 475: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 22:28 UTC 2004

Thanks for explaining the red squiggles.  It is an odd default to have the
spellchecker underline words without asking it to.  It was so disconcerting
I just hit Alt-F4 and went away.  I wish she had sent html.

The Czech is literally 'direct sales' and that is what the English also
appears to be.  It is currently engaged in in E. Europe by Lux, Mary Kay,
Amway, and Winston International, among others.  They claim to be helping
women and reducing unmemployment.  I was reading a library book recently about
how Miller and Budweiser are trying to make money in Russia.  The Russians
cannot understand why Americans don't want to import Ukrainian burgundy wine
which is just as good as the French stuff and half the price.  But they are
willing to pay several hours' wages for one bottle of American beer.  There
were also people trying to sell vitamins, mouthwash, and other things ther
Russians never knew they needed.  
tod
response 205 of 475: Mark Unseen   Feb 10 22:34 UTC 2004

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rcurl
response 206 of 475: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 00:04 UTC 2004

Sindi, if you get red squiggles again, you can go to the Tools menu
and then Spelling and Grammar, and be given a choice of changing the
word (WORD will have suggestions), adding the word as spelled to the
WORD dictionary, or just accepting the word: any of these will make the
squiggles go away. 
keesan
response 207 of 475: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 01:19 UTC 2004

I would have to do this for every word in the document?  I don't want to
rewrite the original, just look at it while translating it.  I don't want to
add the entire Czech dictionary to the spell checker, with all possible
grammatical endings for each word!

Jim heard on the radio that there was going to be an NPR program about
Tupperwear.  He owns one piece of it that he keeps tofu in.  So he has hooked
up a TV antennas to the VCR but cannot find any mention of that program for
this he is looking at some photos of ice instead now.  The station is weak
so is only occasionally colored.  Which does not matter a whole lot for ice,
but might for fire.  They are both nice.

I presume there is some way to turn off the spellchecker but it is really
easier to use Wordviewer anyway.

Tonight I am going to try compiling ncurses with static programs but shared
libraries. I ahve started reading about what this all means.  Ncurses won't
compile properly with shared-library programs.
gelinas
response 208 of 475: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 01:22 UTC 2004

You might want to see if Microsoft has a dictionary for Czech.
glenda
response 209 of 475: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 01:26 UTC 2004

You can go to the tools menu, options, the spelling and grammer tab and turn
spell check off.

I would recommend that you try out open office from www.openoffice.org.  It
can read and write MSWord, MSExcel, and MSPowerPoint files.  It is open source
and free.  It is available for most OS platforms.  I have been playing with
it a bit and am impressed with what I have seen so far.
keesan
response 210 of 475: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 03:30 UTC 2004

Thanks to all of you.  I will check out linux wordprocessors some time after
making another linux computer.  The one I am using is filled up with attempts
to compile ncurses so I can compile lynx.  The latest attempt told me that
the include files were not in the standard location.  They are in
/usr/include.  I wonder what is standard.  I have help from someone really
persistent about making this all work on a screwy setup (old compiler
libraries, new runtime libraries).  

Abiword is supposed to also import WORD files.  I have an Excel to html
convertor for DOS which works well enough.  The WORD to text convertor also
works but I would have needed a second DOS computer to view the file while
typing the translation.  I might, however, need to edit someone's WORD file
some day.  

Jim is, I think, still trying to find his ftp webspace and was hoping he would
run into Glenda again today.  I suggested he ask in lab what ftp address to
use.  Now he can't find his login and password info.  

Running Linux page 119:  /usr/include  - Standard location of include files
used in C programs, such as <stdio.h>.   

Jim has started having dreams again about getting lost looking for classes.
My equivalent is to dream about having signed up for so many classes I cannot
possibly attend them all, and forgetting to drop some before the deadline.

WCC culinary arts program has opened its restaurant again.  Wed/Thurs is a
buffet - $7.50 for soup/salad/bread/appetizer, and an extra dollar if you want
meat and vegetables.  You can't get just the vegetables for 50 cents.
Next week is black history month.  He asks people to make guesses at what the
menu will be.  He says it is not grits and cracklins but he does not know what
it is, and to see who can guess closest.  I guessed macaroni and cheese, which
is what the Chinese buffets in Ypsi provide along with pizza for those people
who got dragged there by their friends.  And jello.  
klg
response 211 of 475: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 03:40 UTC 2004

"Next week is black history month."

What happened?  Has the budget been reduced??
keesan
response 212 of 475: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 03:49 UTC 2004

What I meant was next week is the black history week (or maybe month) buffet
menu, which Jim will look at on Thursday if available then.  

I was told that it is is okay for include files to be in the wrong location
because they are from a previous version of ncurses and this version will go
somewhere else.  I wonder what that all means.  I think that will give me a
choice of which version to use with programs.  Or maybe this means that the
new files will go into a nonstandard location since the old ones got the
standard location.  I am supposed to symlink to them.  

Someone east of here watched 5 min of the Tupperwear program and said it was
not worth the bother.
rational
response 213 of 475: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 03:51 UTC 2004

I think I might have severe mental problems.
klg
response 214 of 475: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 03:55 UTC 2004

Well, make up your mind, woman.  Week or month!!
gelinas
response 215 of 475: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 03:56 UTC 2004

No, it won't be cracklin's, nor chitlin's.  I'd guess collard greens,
black-eyed peas and ham.
keesan
response 216 of 475: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 04:13 UTC 2004

Hey, klg, how come I am not 'Mr. woman'?
I guess cornbread stuffing.  Jim guessed sweet potato pie. Our neighbor often
shares one with us.  Her daughter the doctor learned to cook them but I think
she buys the crusts.  Their secret ingredient is orange juice.  
I wonder if she would like to join us for the buffet.
gull
response 217 of 475: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 15:07 UTC 2004

OpenOffice runs under Windows as well, not just Linux.
ryan
response 218 of 475: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 16:25 UTC 2004

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gull
response 219 of 475: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 17:36 UTC 2004

Sure, but is it $350 more convenient?  I don't do enough work with the
advanced features of Office at home to justify paying that kind of money
for software.
keesan
response 220 of 475: Mark Unseen   Feb 11 18:58 UTC 2004

I don't yet need to actually write or even edit any WORD files, just read
them, and WORDVIEW seems to be adequate.  The latest .doc file they sent me
was hopeless with Antiword.  It has several places where you are supposed to
click on a + or - to get a list of possibilities, one of which the author
chose, and Antiword just left them blank.  Also got the date wrong.  The rest
of it was okay but what I needed was in the list of possibilities (things like
the person to contact, email address, extension).  I sort of doubt that
Abiword will even handle that.  Then there were some X's (like radio buttons)
that disappeared in the Antiword version.  Looks like I am stuck with one
Win98 computer unless I can get these companies to send me a 4K readable text
file instead of 120K page of WORD that I cannot read.  

Today I saved Jim a few hours debugging his program by pointing out that he
was using highly variable spellings of his variables:  linght, weigth - they
would have been okay except he used four variants of the first and two of the
second.  That is why his program would not compile.  He got the ei correct.
Now we are trying to figure out why a computer with a good battery won't hold
its CMOS settings, and why another won't hold its speed setting but keeps the
date okay (I think - we should check this out too).  We have one CD-ROM that
will play music if you unplug the data cable, or read software if you plug
in the data cable, but won't do both.  I recycled two 720K floppy drives.
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