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gull
response 194 of 198: Mark Unseen   Dec 21 01:13 UTC 2000

If you don't need error-checking, ASCII captures of uuencoded stuff work
just fine.
keesan
response 195 of 198: Mark Unseen   Dec 21 02:34 UTC 2000

They have not worked quite yet (see coop 218).  I finally got hold of mate,
mystic, lasker, lazerchess and gnu chess for dos.  I forget which was which,
but one was for playing over the phone or a nullmodem (Q for Quit), most had
German documentation and/or required typing in the move instead of using arrow
keys or mouse, one was a variation on chess in which you rotate the king and
blast the other pieces with a laser, which reflects off the mirrors of most
pieces but goes right through the queen (try explaining that one in Russian!).
I had to reboot from a couple of these to exit, and two I very quickly
crashed, one by simply typing the number 1 to choose a command marked 1. 
Reboot did not work here, and the other crash made a lot of noise until I
turned it off.  They should have let a few ignoramuses loose on these before
publishing them.  The one that crashed with #1 had typos in the German
instructions - not to be trusted at all.   I found siberian chess 2.15, a
later version of another nice program that gave several ways to enter moves
(type the coordinates, arrow keys, or mouse) and various ways to access other
commands (menu, keyboard).  Alt-X exits, Enter key for a new game.  Even our
Russian should be able to learn this, or to use the Game menu and the Level
menu.  Best of all the author is Russian.  We will give him this and Chess
Master (which has way more options that I would have to explain) and Clueless
for his grandson (I won on my first try - the computer was set to present me
with as many takeable pieces as possible while refusing to take any of mine
unless it had to get out of check.)
        I have learned to ftp with Arachne - see coop 218.  Yay!!!!!  The
search for a way to download something other than text files from m-net
continues.  I will try ASCII capture again when it is earlier.  I am off to
crash a browser first while I still remember how I did it last time.
ball
response 196 of 198: Mark Unseen   Dec 21 18:26 UTC 2000

Re #193: If that's directed at me, it's almost certain
  someone else would be in a better position to test that
  since m-net is not a local call for me.
keesan
response 197 of 198: Mark Unseen   Dec 21 18:32 UTC 2000

I crashed the browser on my first try.  Not quite 'stable' yet.  Andy, I don't
think I was asking you to phone m-net -- see if you can get the browser to
stop crashing instead.  What might cause it to continuously flash the image
while 'formatting'?
keesan
response 198 of 198: Mark Unseen   Dec 23 18:56 UTC 2000

Summary of chess games that might work for our Russian:
Name    date size  arrowkeys mouse help/menu quit newgame  level
cyrus   83-85 111K    yes       no   F1         Q   N        L
rex    89-91 134K    yes        no  onscreen   AltQ AltN    AltL
CM2100 ?90   700K      yes  OR  yes  ESC       CtlQ CtlN    ESC/PLAY
CCSYSTEM 92  693K    yes        no  move mouse AltQ AltN    CONTROL
SIBIR215 94  94K     yes       yes  F1/F10     AltX AltN     LEVEL
DIEP1407 94  111K    yes       yes  use mouse filequit GAME   LEVEL
Chenard  96   71K    yes       NO   no help    ESC          choose at startup
Clueless 96   47K    NO        yes  no help    ESC          choose at startup
(Correct ccsystem to no arrows yes mouse)

I predict he will like Sibirian chess, CM2100 (Chessmaster), and Clueless-
anyone want to take bets?  I thought it interesting to see how the quit
commands changed over time.
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