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25 new of 889 responses total.
senna
response 182 of 889: Mark Unseen   Oct 7 03:41 UTC 2000

Arabic is, in fact, a race, though I'm hard pressed to produce its exact
definitions.  Iranians are not considered Arabic, but Iraqis are.  I'm not
positive what the difference is.  Lebanese people are arabic, though.
gelinas
response 183 of 889: Mark Unseen   Oct 7 03:45 UTC 2000

I am happy because we have electricity.  After 25 hours without it.

Something happened around 5:30 yesterday afternoon, cutting our electricity.
We called DetEd, who said they were on it.  At 22:30, still without power,
we called again, and they gave an ETR fo 23:40.  So we went to bed.  Got up
without power, we all left.  Kids got home to no power, so I call again.
"The problem has been resolved," I'm told, so I call home: no power.  So
I walk down the street to the their office and talk to a real, live person,
face to face even, who is appropriately shocked and sympathetic and puts in
another report.  Turns out there were *two* more or less simultaneous events.
One got fixed, all reports were zeroed out, and we (and our neighbors) were
left in the dark.  To complicate matters: two have their own generators, for
emergencies like this one, and so appeared to have power.  Well, they did
have it, just not from DetEd.

Two hours after my visit downtown, power was restored.  By the time we got
back from supper, the house had warmed up from 63 to (the desired) 70.
(Not bad: 24 hours with no heat, outside temperatures in the forties, and
the house only dropped to 62-3.)
senna
response 184 of 889: Mark Unseen   Oct 7 04:06 UTC 2000

Work has been relatively good this week, because we're borrowing approximately
15 people from other stores.  
scg
response 185 of 889: Mark Unseen   Oct 7 06:41 UTC 2000

This doesn't belong in the happy item, but it's a response to 183.  I too
spent time on the phone with Detroit Edison today, including at least half
an hour in a hold queue before getting to talk to somebody.  A week after I
got to California, on June 30, the movers had shown up at my place in Ann
Arbor and taken my stuff away, the keys were returned to the landlord, and
I asked Detroit Edison to close my account there.  This week, when I received
yet another batch of forwarded mail, it included a bill for Detroit Edison
service to my former address in Ann Arbor, from August 18 to September 18,
as well as past due charges for a couple of previous bills that probably got
lost somewhere.

Today I called Detroit Edison, assuming they had lost my disconnect request
somewhere.  As it turns out, they hadn't.  Their notes on my account said that
they had sent somebody out to do the final meter reading, but that the meter
reader had been kept away from the area around the electric meter my a large
dog.  Did they do an estimated reading and send me a bill?  Did they send
somebody out to do the final meter reading later?  Did they call and tell me
they had a problem?  Did they send me a bill based on the next regularly
scheduled reading?  Did they contact me to tell me they were having a problem?
Of course not.  They continued doing their regular schedule meter readings,
continued applying the charges to my not fully closed account, and continued
to send me bills, for the next three months, until I called to point this out
to them.  Even now, even after promising that they will send me a refund for
the July bill, which I had assumed to be a bill for my last few weeks there
and had paid, and after promising that they wouldn't charge me any of the
money requested in the bills that had followed that one, they still want to
send somebody out to do a meter reading before they can finish the closing
of the account.  The guy on the phone explained this all to me in great
detail, and didn't seem to find anything at all strange about the process,
or the lack of error handling, that he was describing.
birdy
response 186 of 889: Mark Unseen   Oct 7 06:58 UTC 2000

Man...we also had problems with DetEd this week and were without power for
2-3 *days*.  They kept losing the work order, and we got tired of being put
on hold for thirty minutes.  (Anne and I took turns babysitting the phone).
Even though it was cold, the apartment only dropped to 65.  Not bad.  It turns
out they disconnected us instead of our neighbors (roomful of meters...feh).

And yes...they did catch hell.  =)
jerryr
response 187 of 889: Mark Unseen   Oct 7 12:02 UTC 2000

re: #182  not really.  first of all "arabic" is a language, not a race. 

Arab (`r4eb) noun
1.      A member of a Semitic people inhabiting Arabia, whose language and
Islamic religion spread widely throughout the Middle East and northern Africa
from the seventh century.

2.      A member of an Arabic-speaking people.

Excerpted from The American Heritage. Dictionary of the English Language,


brighn
response 188 of 889: Mark Unseen   Oct 7 14:59 UTC 2000

Arabic is also a writing system. =}
There ARE NO races.
rcurl
response 189 of 889: Mark Unseen   Oct 7 18:38 UTC 2000

I wanted to say that (there are NO races), but it seems all those naming
this "race" and that "race" here would simply not understand that THERE
ARE NO RACES. We are all Homo Sapiens, one species, and there are some
trivial variations due to evolutionary processes, which have absolutely
nothing to do with anything, except such things like some people are
better at making vitamin D at high latitudes and others are better
protected from making too much vitamin D at low latitudes, and a few other
minor characteristics have drifted due to isolation of populations - as
perfect a demonstrations of how evolution works short of speciation as we
can readily see.

senna
response 190 of 889: Mark Unseen   Oct 7 20:14 UTC 2000

Americans have long held a less than accurate view of people of middle eastern
origin.  A dictionary written by Americans brings no guarantees. :)
tod
response 191 of 889: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 00:23 UTC 2000

evolution is a theory
rcurl
response 192 of 889: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 05:42 UTC 2000

Evolution is accepted as a fact my all scientists publishing in the
scientific literature. I don't care if you call it a theory, but
is as well established as the Copernican theory of planetary motion. 
twinkie
response 193 of 889: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 06:27 UTC 2000

Lebanese people are not Arabic. 
They are Lebanese.
(This comes from a girl I briefly dated who was from Lebanon, and corrected
my faux pas)

The proper term for people of that region is "middle eastern", and should then
be regionalized (Iraqi, Lebanese, etc.), then by language (Arabic, Chaldean),
then by religion (Christian, Muslim)

grimaldi
response 194 of 889: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 06:52 UTC 2000

We just had a wopnderful gig (As in my accapella group that I am a part of
tonight at tyhe MSU union. We have a big gig at Accapalooza on Friday the
13th. We had a oparty after the gig, and I am so fuckin drunk that I'm gonna
sleep for a long time happily and without a hangover tomorrow as usual. GO
me.. I'm so fuckin' drunk ! :)
birdy
response 195 of 889: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 08:48 UTC 2000

IHB I'm having fun role-playing in Anney's Vampire game.
IAHB my boss kicks ass.
jerryr
response 196 of 889: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 11:12 UTC 2000

re: #183  if she is a lebanese that speaks arabic as her first language, she
is an arab.  much the same as the israeli citizens who are arabs.  if not,
she's not.
carson
response 197 of 889: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 14:55 UTC 2000

resp:181  (that's funny because, right now, I'm happy that I'm *not* in
        Chicago.  I'll pass through in another five hours or so, but I bet
        I'll survive the experience.  I'm usually happy to visit Chicago
        [and Ann Arbor, for that matter], but this weekend hasn't been one
        of those occasions.)

        (I'm happy I'm going back to Marquette and my new life.)  :)
mooncat
response 198 of 889: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 18:18 UTC 2000

IHB- I'm having fun storytelling the new vampire game... I've been able 
to get lots of slee pthis weekend... and yeah, that's about all for the 
moment...
russ
response 199 of 889: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 19:35 UTC 2000

Re #191:  A highly accurate theory, in contrast to the various
religious dogmas which it supplanted (which evidence has proven
to be complete bunk, akin to "angry gods" theories of storms
and earthquakes).
twinkie
response 200 of 889: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 22:09 UTC 2000

re: 196 -- She spoke English as her first language, but she also spoke Arabic
fluently.

As culturally diverse as you are, I have to think that she would know if she's
Arab better than you would.

rcurl
response 201 of 889: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 22:30 UTC 2000

Re #199: I always hesitate to apply the term "accurate" to "theories" 
like Copernican astronomy or evolution, but only because I am in part a
statistition, and "accurate" (and "precise") have definitions.  I'd say
that Darwinian evolution and Copernican astronomy are not accurate, but
are good qualitative descriptions. Newtonian astronomy (theory) is
accurate, and some developments in evolutionary theory attain similar
accuracy (genetics, in particular).

krj
response 202 of 889: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 01:15 UTC 2000

Everyone seems to have been in Chicago.  We were the for the weekend, 
for two operas Friday and Saturday night.  When we came out from the 
Saturday opera, it was thunder-snowing.
ea
response 203 of 889: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 02:21 UTC 2000

(To whoever said "There ARE NO races.": What do you call the 
Indianapolis 500? *grin*)

IHB I was in Ann Arbor for the weekend.  Long enough to go to a hockey 
game, get some laundry done for free, and get homemade cookies to bring 
back.  Life is very good.
birdy
response 204 of 889: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 02:34 UTC 2000

IHB I handled my first shift as a supervisor very well and got a Frosty for
my efforts.  =)  (No, I do not work at Wendy's...it was a reward)
IAHB the person who is going to work with me every Sunday is really nice,
intelligent, and knows what he's doing.  Yay!
IVHB I got a big raise and a Cool Title.
hematite
response 205 of 889: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 02:46 UTC 2000

Eric: don't you love free laundry and homemade cookies. I just got back 
from home and have the same thing. Chocolate crinkles and molasses. Mmmm
lynne
response 206 of 889: Mark Unseen   Oct 9 02:48 UTC 2000

Hell week (sick, subgroup report due, major symposium with many BIG names)
is over.  Dropping enormous class which will give me time to do actual
research.  In lab setting up reactions, and happy to be here instead of 
stressed about all the things I'm not doing.  And when I came in, there
was a lovely little thank-you note for helping out with TA training--with
two free movie passes enclosed :)
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