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mdw
response 18 of 32: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 06:26 UTC 2001

Fighting spam is definitely an unpleasant nuisance.
keesan
response 19 of 32: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 16:53 UTC 2001

Can't you think of it rather as a challenge?  A war that you can sometimes
win battles in?  Steve Weiss appears to be enjoying at least part of his role
in answering emails for help.  He has correctly identified the languages of
a few help requests (Estonian, Slovene, etc.) that he asked for my help in
reading and answering.  He also somehow recently forwarded to me an email
addressed to webmaster@cyberspace.org asking for info on stainless steel
roofing!  I can understand how going to the Pumpkin at 2 am might be
considered unpleasant.
bhoward
response 20 of 32: Mark Unseen   Oct 27 09:49 UTC 2001

is helping out with things like email help requests limited
to official board/staff members?

pity.  seems like a place where a remote member like myself
could help out.
jp2
response 21 of 32: Mark Unseen   Oct 27 14:14 UTC 2001

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jp2
response 22 of 32: Mark Unseen   Oct 27 20:23 UTC 2001

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cmcgee
response 23 of 32: Mark Unseen   Oct 27 20:33 UTC 2001

Consensus does not mean unanimity.  This board has moved forward without
consensus in the past.  Irrational concerns do not gaurantee paralysis
under consensus any more than a 5-4 split under Roberts Rules gaurantees
unanimity.

Whatever system the board is using needs to be one under which everyone is
comfortable and the board can make non-unanimous decisions and move on. 
Majority oriented procedures do not do this any better or worse than
consensus oriented procedures.

jp2
response 24 of 32: Mark Unseen   Oct 27 20:49 UTC 2001

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krj
response 25 of 32: Mark Unseen   Oct 27 21:40 UTC 2001

What we need on the Grex board is a junior-league Machiavelli who will
threaten to get people who oppose him forced off the board.
aruba
response 26 of 32: Mark Unseen   Oct 28 03:16 UTC 2001

Re #24: Sure, a vote can be forced before everyone agrees.  I recall scg
doing that himself, as a matter of fact.
jp2
response 27 of 32: Mark Unseen   Oct 28 03:17 UTC 2001

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aruba
response 28 of 32: Mark Unseen   Oct 28 03:45 UTC 2001

He said "Let's vote", and we did.
jp2
response 29 of 32: Mark Unseen   Oct 28 03:50 UTC 2001

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other
response 30 of 32: Mark Unseen   Oct 28 18:42 UTC 2001

We do not *require* consensus.  We *strive* for it.  Any suggestion that 
the drive or need for consensus has paralyzed us in any way seems 
specious to me.

We choose to move at a slow and considered pace, but that is a helluva 
long way from paralysis.
srw
response 31 of 32: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 02:14 UTC 2001

In answer to (way back there is resp:19) Sindi's questioning whether 
staff work is done because it's a challenge, I'd have to say no. Jan 
pretty much hit it on the head (resp:17) when he described my answering 
of staff email as an annoyance that I put up with because no one else 
wants to do it. I can only assume it is the same for other staffers.

In fact it can be a challenge, but mostly it is drudgery that I try to 
do as competently and quickly as I can because there are other things 
that I'd much rather be doing. I batch up answering staff mail until the 
weekend and answer it all at once, because that way is more efficient 
for me. I definitely don't do it for the challenge. There's not enough 
cahllenge to make it worth the effort, but I do enjoy the odd challenge 
that pops up unexpectedly (Like questions for staff in Estonian - I 
guess this guy thought we could read that. It's at times like that when 
I like to surprise them. We almost did.)

No, I'd much rather be writing code. I just think Grex needs me more to 
be doing this. I guess I have Jan's "weird mental defect". 
mdw
response 32 of 32: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 03:10 UTC 2001

I'm not nearly as good as Steve is at answering mail, but I try to
answer a certain percentage of mail that is weird off-the-wall type
stuff.  Sometimes that's stuff that I suspect Steve would answer with "I
don't know the answer, but...", occasionally it's stuff I think nobody
else on staff wants to even think about answering, like people who
complain about e-mail when it's really some sort of family dispute, or
the guy who I think wanted us to set up some sort of crypto free-haven.
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