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tod
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response 18 of 30:
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Jan 15 19:20 UTC 2010 |
The idea of having both MNet and Grex as VM instances is fairly simple:
M-Net hardware works. ISP doesn't charge for bandwidth. Staff crossover.
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cross
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response 19 of 30:
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Jan 18 02:11 UTC 2010 |
I still really don't understand the problem with hosting two separate BBS
instances on the same physical hardware. Could someone please address that?
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tsty
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response 20 of 30:
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Jan 18 05:22 UTC 2010 |
here it is ... again, imo:
Tue, Dec 1, 2009 (17:10):
grex was set up, officially, socially, technically, emotionally and
structurally to be NOT-m-b0x. the water and the oil were separated
by the birth of grex and it just ain't a-gonna fuse again even if enough
pressure can make diamonds from carbon.
ann arbor is a VerySmallTown (tm).
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cross
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response 21 of 30:
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Jan 18 06:02 UTC 2010 |
I don't care about Ann Arbor or how big it is. And what does that have to
do with anything?
If people don't object to the systems being on the same (virtualized)
hardware, then who cares whether they share the same running kernel?
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tonster
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response 22 of 30:
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Jan 18 09:14 UTC 2010 |
it seems like there are objections to both. aside from that, m-net has
source to backtalk and could techncially recompile and install a
separate instance of bbs for grex if it ever came to be required. I'm
unsure of picospan, but I'm assuming it's possible to do the same so I
would think it could be done if picospan and yapp were to run
concurrently. That is to say that it's likely TECHNICALLY possible, if
it ever came to the implementation stage.
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cross
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response 23 of 30:
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Jan 18 16:34 UTC 2010 |
Yes, that is all true... Picospan has been deprecated for a while now,
though, so I'm really not concerned about it.
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tod
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response 24 of 30:
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Jan 19 17:33 UTC 2010 |
re #22
Implementation would be nice. Other than emotional intelligence barriers,
I don't see why it couldn't happen.
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cross
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response 25 of 30:
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Jan 19 17:39 UTC 2010 |
Me neither. And frankly, I don't care about the emotional barriers.
Whatever happened 19 years ago in some dinky midwest college town is
irrelevant to me sitting in New York, Afghanistan, or California in
2010. Caving the the ghosts of Grex's past is what's keeping it back
more than anything.
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tod
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response 26 of 30:
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Jan 19 17:59 UTC 2010 |
Grexing from Jalalabad or Kabul? Whoa, haha, nice! I've got NY and CA in
2010, too..and some EU places mostly. A2 drama only taints the whole
experience with Green Acres episodic comedy not worth reading.
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madmike
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response 27 of 30:
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Mar 16 02:50 UTC 2010 |
imho an m-net based solution is far from _outside the box_. seems a bit
insestuous in fact. the problems that seem to hinder the growth of grex are
not avoided by moving to that box. the further away from M-Net cyberspace gets
the more I -for one - would like it.
when your engine blows a gasket you could fix it with a used motor - sure your
could even drop in a NEW motor. the important thing is if you blow your gasket
you are not treating your motor properly.
the problem as I see it has less to do with hardware and more to do with
process.
I really wish I had more time to get involved here but for now its just 2
cents from the peanut gallery.
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tod
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response 28 of 30:
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Mar 16 13:14 UTC 2010 |
re #27
There's a handful of users on either system. M-Net has no hosting costs.
I don't see how Grex would be in harm's way by converging on hardware.
Split virtual systems would be a piece of cake.
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cross
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response 29 of 30:
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Mar 16 13:42 UTC 2010 |
Another possibility would be running both in a FreeBSD jail.
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madmike
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response 30 of 30:
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Mar 16 18:37 UTC 2010 |
To swerve back to topic...
If the answer to the hosting issue gets us to sharing a box with M-Net then
I imagine if Grex goes down then M-Net likely has as well :\
Having a location to hook-up that is disconnected from that hub is only
logical (in much the same way as hosting via M-Net piggyback seems logical)
Putting all the eggs in one basket is seldom the wisest couse of action.
-call that cent 3 ;)
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