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tpryan
response 175 of 416: Mark Unseen   Aug 16 15:13 UTC 1997

        Sounds like a good topic for behavior.cf or general.cf.
mziemba
response 176 of 416: Mark Unseen   Aug 16 19:26 UTC 1997

True, but drift is inherent, here, where things can be connected, rather than
divided...
mcnally
response 177 of 416: Mark Unseen   Aug 16 20:01 UTC 1997

  I tend to think that the weight issue is irrelevant in this case anyway..
  By the time in question Fleetwood Mac were so wildly popular that they
  probably could have gained three hundred pounds apiece, painted themselves
  purple, and appeared on stage wearing giant diapers and they'd still have
  drawn fans..
orinoco
response 178 of 416: Mark Unseen   Aug 17 02:12 UTC 1997

I know *I'd* go see that one...
 :)
lumen
response 179 of 416: Mark Unseen   Aug 17 03:58 UTC 1997

*laughs*
mziemba
response 180 of 416: Mark Unseen   Aug 17 09:22 UTC 1997

Didn't Peter Gabriel do something like that, already?  Or was that Bill
Spooner, Fee Waybill, and company? 

anderyn
response 181 of 416: Mark Unseen   Aug 17 20:59 UTC 1997

I finally got to see that concert by Fleetwood Mac on tv yesterday,
and I didn't think Stevie was THAT big. And she still sounded good.
Which is what I care about anyway. I just don't CARE what my favorite
artists look like, I mean, does anyone think Luciano Pavarotti is
less great 'cause he's huge? 
orinoco
response 182 of 416: Mark Unseen   Aug 17 23:28 UTC 1997

No, but is image as big a thing in opera as it is in popular music?
krj
response 183 of 416: Mark Unseen   Aug 17 23:34 UTC 1997

Probably.  There was a essay in THE ABSOLUTE SOUND a couple 
of years ago which sent Arabella into quite a rage; the author 
complained that the current generation of women opera singers 
divided into good singers who were too fat to be attractive on stage
(Alessandra Marc, Jane Eaglen and Sharon Sweet) and thin ones whose 
voices weren't very good and who were being pushed too hard to sing 
roles before they were ready for them.)

These standards generally apply only to women, of course.
lumen
response 184 of 416: Mark Unseen   Aug 18 21:37 UTC 1997

True-- but the pendulum is very slowly swinging the other way..
orinoco
response 185 of 416: Mark Unseen   Aug 18 23:49 UTC 1997

Hmm...I didn't realize.
lumen
response 186 of 416: Mark Unseen   Aug 19 06:05 UTC 1997

Nah-- it won't be realized in music for a long time, but there is more
pressure on guys these days to look good and to have a washboard belly.  At
least, that's how I see it..or I am just looking at the world through MTV
glasses?  (And how many fat country male stars do you see?)
orinoco
response 187 of 416: Mark Unseen   Aug 19 21:26 UTC 1997

No, I mean I didn't realize that 'image' was such a big part of classical
music.
lumen
response 188 of 416: Mark Unseen   Aug 20 01:38 UTC 1997

Oh, I wouldn't be surprised if everyone *wasn't* image-obsessed these days.
tpryan
response 189 of 416: Mark Unseen   Aug 24 15:56 UTC 1997

        If you look at it this way:  gained a number of pounds since
peak of popularity--does this come from less exercise,  does this 
lack of exercise and/or weight gain mean a lower lung capacity--a 
lesser vocal performance.  Maybe we have seen the pattern too much:
age and/or weight gain being indicators of lower performance possibities?
orinoco
response 190 of 416: Mark Unseen   Aug 24 17:23 UTC 1997

Well, I suppose, but it's not so much age as lack of health.  I've seen some
fairly healthy geezers who probably have a better lung capacity than some
couch potatoes I know.
mziemba
response 191 of 416: Mark Unseen   Aug 24 17:44 UTC 1997

Lung capacity and performance ability have much more to do with vocal
training than age and weight considerations. 

krj
response 192 of 416: Mark Unseen   Aug 26 17:21 UTC 1997

Conservative radio commentator Paul Harvey had a few moments of 
enthusiastic praise for Ben Harper and his new 
album on his Monday noon broadcast.  Good day!
senna
response 193 of 416: Mark Unseen   Aug 27 02:51 UTC 1997

Paul is cool.
mziemba
response 194 of 416: Mark Unseen   Aug 27 05:21 UTC 1997

Hehehehehe...are you kidding?  *That's* interesting...

I'd have to say, however, that Harper is pretty cool, in my book.  One of he
things that impresses me about him, wholly aside from his musical ability,
is the fact that he has a very constructive, soulful approach to things. 
That's something we need more of...
 
mziemba
response 195 of 416: Mark Unseen   Aug 29 07:44 UTC 1997

Thornetta Davis is going to be at the Ark Saturday, September 13.  This
will be a good show.  She's a soul/gospel singer that's really hitting her
stride right now.  Backed apparently by three former members of the
now-defunct local band, Big Chief.  (I don't recall liking Big Chief, but
whatever they're doing with Thornetta is alright in my book...). 

I'm only going to catch a few shows this fall, and this is near the top.

senna
response 196 of 416: Mark Unseen   Aug 29 23:14 UTC 1997

Uh, not being a particularly mentally sound guy, I figured this might be the
best place to announce it.  I've rewritten ripclaw's plan into a semi-regular
commentary on rock radio and the songs played on it.  Might interest some
people.  Type !f ripclaw to view it.
mziemba
response 197 of 416: Mark Unseen   Aug 30 07:58 UTC 1997

Thanks, Steve!  I'll have to mosey over there and check it out...
mziemba
response 198 of 416: Mark Unseen   Aug 31 08:34 UTC 1997

Alvin Youngblood Hart will be playing the Ark Monday, September 8.  He is a
wonderfully talented young blues musician not to be missed.  Fantastic place
to see him, too...
krj
response 199 of 416: Mark Unseen   Aug 31 09:18 UTC 1997

Aieee.  This must be a last-minute booking; the Ark is usually closed
on Monday.  I would go, but....  I counted *20* shows I wanted to see 
on the Sept./Oct. Ark schedule...
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