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keesan
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response 175 of 227:
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Feb 21 15:37 UTC 2000 |
When I typed Ctl-X to send e-mail I got
ld.so: call to undefined procedure _sigpause from 0xef785528
and then the main grex prompt and it would not do anything else
until I hung up and redialed. ?
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pfv
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response 176 of 227:
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Feb 21 21:28 UTC 2000 |
we call that an "Ouchie".
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dpc
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response 177 of 227:
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Feb 22 15:38 UTC 2000 |
Just a few minutes ago I dialed in on 761-3000. I got a *huge*
pile of electronic junk from Grex and was unable to connect.
This same thing happened a couple of weeks ago. I got in successfully
on 761-4931. I think someone said they had fixed the earlier
problem. Could someone check again to see if the duct tape has
come loose?
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dpc
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response 178 of 227:
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Feb 25 18:13 UTC 2000 |
Here's what I got a minute ago when I tried to log in on -3000:
Welcome to Grex! (it may take a few seconds to connect)
@
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Hv@
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Hv@
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Hv@
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Hv
Grex is the Midnight Snack of Champs
New to grex? Type help at the login prompt
grex.cyberspace.org
The System wouldn't take my login. I was able to log in on -4931.
We seem to have serious problems with the dialins. I hope people
with a clue can fix them.
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omni
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response 179 of 227:
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Feb 25 20:31 UTC 2000 |
Simple explanation dave. Grex doesn't like you. :)
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krj
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response 180 of 227:
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Feb 25 22:39 UTC 2000 |
/c and /a are 100% full, according to the df command.
My participation file hasn't been trashed yet, at least.
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keesan
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response 181 of 227:
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Feb 26 00:02 UTC 2000 |
It was running very slow this afternoon.
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katie
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response 182 of 227:
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Feb 26 01:47 UTC 2000 |
Can't read mail, alas. Is someone with powers reading this?
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drew
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response 183 of 227:
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Feb 26 03:12 UTC 2000 |
WTF is up with mail? I have in excess of 3000 messages, all of which have
headers full of garbage characters. If there are any valid messages therein,
I'll never know what they were.
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drew
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response 184 of 227:
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Feb 26 03:23 UTC 2000 |
I decided on just getting rid of the 207 meg file, which gave me "Permission
denied" when I tried to delete it in spite of the fact that (1) I was clearly
listed as the owner, and (2) it somehow got to be chmodded 777 while everyone
else's is set to 600 (wonder if that has anything to do with it?). I settled
on copying an old saved email over the big file, then reading my mail
normally, which seems to have worked.
Re #182: You get the same problem?
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katie
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response 185 of 227:
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Feb 26 03:35 UTC 2000 |
Don't think so. I just couldn't read mine. (Um, I hope that's the problem
you're referring to).
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drew
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response 186 of 227:
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Feb 26 04:01 UTC 2000 |
Uhh, no. Well, yes, I couldn't read mine. I *could* execute the mail command,
which promptly gave me 3000+ garbage headers - so many that I had to kill the
telnet window with NT Task Manager and log back in. Pine just froze up. So
I never saw a single byte of message text.
And a test message that I sent over from m-net afterward is taking its sweet
time showing up.
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janc
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response 187 of 227:
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Feb 26 05:22 UTC 2000 |
/a, /c, /tmp were all full. Seemed to be three separate people who were
simultaneously struck by a mysterious urge to put honking big files on Grex.
Valerie started clean-up, but we had to run off for an appointment. Marcus
cleaned up. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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drew
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response 188 of 227:
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Feb 26 17:41 UTC 2000 |
Mail seems back to normal now, and /tmp is at 2%. /a and /c are still nearly
full, however.
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darkskyz
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response 189 of 227:
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Feb 26 21:04 UTC 2000 |
about the space problems: first, it's starting to get annoying.
but second, and more importantly, i noticed that practically all users have
the default .pinerc in their home dirs. according to bc, if every user on grex
has the default pinerc in their home dir, the .pinerc files themselves take
up 270498332 bytes, or about 270M of disk space. my question is, could we
parhaps hack pine so that it uses a default configuration file which is placed
in say /etc/, and only if the user tries to change one of the prefrences does
it make a copy in the home dir? i suspect that will save up atleast 100M if
done. this could be also done probobly for other config files that are usually
used by default, but .pinerc looks like the most common one. or, another
solution would be just to have everyone use mail(1) ;)
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mdw
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response 190 of 227:
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Feb 26 23:34 UTC 2000 |
Pine is a pig. Pine source is a scary thing full of dark creepy things.
Yes, pine can probably use a default .pinerc, perhaps even without
touching the scary source. On the other hand, pine likes to also
*WRITE* its .pinerc. I'm not sure just how often it does this, or if
it's smart enough to clone .pinerc from the global place the first time
it writes it.
I have no object to just teaching people to use mail(1) by default, but
there seems to be a huge contigent of people who think that it's
important to inflict pine on new users, and that mail(1) is too hard to
learn.
PS. How much do 270 M hard disks cost these days?
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gelinas
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response 191 of 227:
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Feb 27 01:30 UTC 2000 |
Pine writes to its .pinerc at least once a month, when it records having asked
about moving around sent-mail folders. It may write other stuff, but that
at least must be recorded on a user-by-user basis.
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rcurl
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response 192 of 227:
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Feb 27 02:18 UTC 2000 |
mail is not too hard to learn but awkward to use. But while we are on the
subject - what are all those pinerc****** files that appear in my
directory (and which I happily delete)?
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pfv
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response 193 of 227:
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Feb 27 02:47 UTC 2000 |
<shrug> set up grex to delete said nuisances at .logout
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krj
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response 194 of 227:
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Feb 27 03:52 UTC 2000 |
/tmp is full, so my attempt to send mail just failed.
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keesan
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response 195 of 227:
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Feb 27 15:00 UTC 2000 |
How can I send and receive binary attachments with mail? Or use an
address book?
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rcurl
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response 196 of 227:
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Feb 27 19:41 UTC 2000 |
There is a line for attachments in the pine header. Write in the
filename from your directory. How do you want to "use" an address book?
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drew
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response 197 of 227:
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Feb 27 21:02 UTC 2000 |
Keesan was asking how to do this with mail(1) instead of pine. I would like
to know this too.
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gelinas
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response 198 of 227:
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Feb 27 23:45 UTC 2000 |
mail understands MIME? I'm surprised.
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mcnally
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response 199 of 227:
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Feb 27 23:54 UTC 2000 |
The first MIME-compliant program I remember using was a patched
/usr/ucb/mail which would recognize the presence of an attachment-type
header and pipe the message through Nathaniel Borenstein's "metamail"
program. At that time the patched "mail" program and the "mh" suite
of mail-handling programs were about the only widespread clients that
talked MIME..
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