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richard
response 175 of 292: Mark Unseen   Nov 8 18:08 UTC 1999

perhaps staff should identify these /a drive vandals and notify their
ISP's and block'em if they are all coming from the same place 
tpryan
response 176 of 292: Mark Unseen   Nov 8 20:02 UTC 1999

        Or put a hard limit on the amount of disk space used by a 
user?
pfv
response 177 of 292: Mark Unseen   Nov 8 20:18 UTC 1999

Gee.. what happened to the grex "we have no problem[issue]" speeches?
mcnally
response 178 of 292: Mark Unseen   Nov 8 20:28 UTC 1999

  They vanished when you woke up..  Nobody's ever claimed that we don't
  have problems on Grex.  The fact that we don't all agree with your
  approach to disk-space management doesn't mean that everyone thinks that
  the situation can't be improved..

  re #176:  The problem with enabling quotas is largely one of computational
  power -- the extra overhead for filesystem calls with quotas enabled on
  user filesystems would probably swamp Grex's fairly feeble processor(s).
pfv
response 179 of 292: Mark Unseen   Nov 8 20:30 UTC 1999

Aww, that was cute..

Yeah, sorry: quota is too CPU-intensive.
drew
response 180 of 292: Mark Unseen   Nov 8 21:13 UTC 1999

I agree with Richard on this. ISP accounts are still mostly traceable to the
perpetrators, and any ISP with half a brain is going to take a dim view of
this sort of nonsense.

As for a separate partition, this can be resolved fairly, maybe, with a 30
day? 60 day? wait before being moved to the stable partition. Certainly worth
looking at. Clean up /a, then have all new arrivals start out on /b, and later
get moved to /d (or whatever name is available) when we get to know them
better.

As for quotas: has this been experimented with to see just how bad the CPU
hit would be? Perhaps a CPU upgrade is in order.
jazz
response 181 of 292: Mark Unseen   Nov 8 23:51 UTC 1999

        You're assuming that ISPs are always responsible for their users. 
That's not always the case.  I've had very bad luck contacting certain
administrations (as a system admin on other systems) - occasionally they'll
simply state that they're just not responsible for what happens with a wingate
proxy server on their network, since they do not directly administrate them.
M-Net's approach was to ban wingates when they were recognized (they have a
distinctive login prompt).
scg
response 182 of 292: Mark Unseen   Nov 9 00:42 UTC 1999

My impression is that the disk space fill-ups are generally a lot of people
doing various stupid but probably not malicious things, that add up.  When
we get repeats of that sort of thing, from people who persist after being told
to stop, we often do follow up with the ISPs.  Sometimes it helps, sometimes
it doesn't.  However, the amount of work involved in tracking down the ISP
of every eggdropping would be pretty staggering, and generally wouldn't help
anything.
mdw
response 183 of 292: Mark Unseen   Nov 9 01:20 UTC 1999

Actually, the simplest approach is to add more disk space.  The fact
this is becoming more & more of a problem is almost certainly an
indication that we're way closer to capacity than we should be.
pfv
response 184 of 292: Mark Unseen   Nov 11 15:04 UTC 1999

        What was with the downtime & reboot this AM?
aruba
response 185 of 292: Mark Unseen   Nov 11 15:41 UTC 1999

I couldn't dial in this morning - had to telnet.
pfv
response 186 of 292: Mark Unseen   Nov 11 15:44 UTC 1999

        Ping was refused; finger was refused; telnet was refused.

        Load has been up over 20, we now have:

 10:43am  up  1:03,  65 users,  load average: 9.44, 14.74, 13.34
albaugh
response 187 of 292: Mark Unseen   Nov 11 18:23 UTC 1999

Don't know that this is a "problem", but why, when I was reading the agora
"man of the century" item, at the More prompt, did bbs display:

(Fixed item 119 flags 38->18 mtime 382b073a)
(Fixed item 119 rcnt 54)
omni
response 188 of 292: Mark Unseen   Nov 12 08:21 UTC 1999

  Nice and speedy now, even at 2400. Way to go, staff.
keesan
response 189 of 292: Mark Unseen   Nov 15 15:15 UTC 1999

I logged on once and got NO CARRIER after some gibberish.  Second login got
me to bbs with some gibberish along the way, but I can only read the first
one to five lines of anybody's response then it turns to gibberish.  Tried
both 761-3000 and 761-5041.  A new user also phoned (in Russian) to ask why
he got NO CAREER instead of e-mail.  (I can read what I am typing just fine,
and this is line six already).  Trying to read e-mail got me a line or two
of readable e-mail plus gibberish, for each e-mail.  We may have to go out
and fix the NO CAREER problem for the Russians if it is not a grex problem,
so would like to know before this evening if this is a general problem.
keesan
response 190 of 292: Mark Unseen   Nov 15 15:16 UTC 1999

Tried to read my own previous response, read 1 line, the rest gibberish.  Lynx
is 100% gibberish except for Do you really want to quit?  (I did).  I am
dialled in at 761-5041 right now.
mcnally
response 191 of 292: Mark Unseen   Nov 15 18:24 UTC 1999

  I keep having NO CAREER problems, too, but I've been doing on-campus
  interviews, so hopefully they'll go away..
pfv
response 192 of 292: Mark Unseen   Nov 15 20:56 UTC 1999

reboot NOW, avoid the rush.. 

Something is definitely WRONG when folks can leave party and we get NO
MESSAGE in the log....
krj
response 193 of 292: Mark Unseen   Nov 15 21:32 UTC 1999

That can be done intentionally by judicious process killing, I believe.
kaplan
response 194 of 292: Mark Unseen   Nov 16 00:29 UTC 1999

keesan,  the "gibberish" that you're talking about sound like a noise on 
a phone line with a non-error detecting modem.  If I'm not mistaken, any 
modem speed 9600 or above will detect such gibberish, drop it, and ask 
the sending modem to transmit again.  So noisy phone lines make things 
slow down but not fill with gibberish.  Are you using a modem speed 2400 
or below?  If so, and given the popularity of 53,000 speed modems, I 
would expect that 9600, 14,400, and even 28,800 speed modems would be 
easy to find very cheap on the used market.

If you are using an error detecting modem, then maybe the problem is the 
cable connecting the modem to the computer, the modem's power supply, 
bad modem interface, bad motherboard, or something like that.  I very 
much doubt that it's a problem with Grex.
tpryan
response 195 of 292: Mark Unseen   Nov 16 03:31 UTC 1999

        Kiwanis has a desperate need for external 14.4 baud modems
and internal modems of all speeds.
        So dear user, if you or your company has some surplus, or soon
to be surplus, try to get them reused by getting them to Kiwanis, 
Ann Arbor.
beckham
response 196 of 292: Mark Unseen   Nov 16 13:06 UTC 1999

whats it...?
mcnally
response 197 of 292: Mark Unseen   Nov 16 17:18 UTC 1999

  Kiwanis is a charitable organization.  Several Grexers are active
  in the Ann Arbor chapter, which (among many other things) refurbishes
  old computer systems so people who couldn't ordinarily afford a new
  computer can still get a functioning machine suitable for at least
  basic word processing and e-mail..

russ
response 198 of 292: Mark Unseen   Nov 17 01:18 UTC 1999

I am currently on a tty which apparently has defective flow control
to the modem.  If this is the case, it would explain Sindi's problem
too.  The defective flow control screws up sz, so I am going to have
to break my files into pieces that won't overflow the modem buffer
before they encounter a software-enforced break in transmission.

Oh, until it screws up, it runs *really* fast.
gelinas
response 199 of 292: Mark Unseen   Nov 18 06:34 UTC 1999

Every now and again, I get things like:

Ok: che

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