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davel
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response 175 of 283:
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Nov 8 14:39 UTC 1997 |
Maybe we could give all the vandals their own filesystem?
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qt314
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response 176 of 283:
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Nov 9 17:35 UTC 1997 |
Does anybody know why it appears as if my "participation file" in Agora has
been reaped?? I have read TONS of stuff and now...it acts like everything is
brand new?!?!
*marla is going back to playing catch-up*
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rcurl
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response 177 of 283:
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Nov 9 17:41 UTC 1997 |
....it happens. Enter seen at Ok: and everything will be marked as read.
You might miss a response or two, but can catch that from the thread.
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mta
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response 178 of 283:
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Nov 9 22:31 UTC 1997 |
you can also mark everything as seen and then "read since <date>" to see
anything new since you last read the conference. That gives you option of
re-reading a few things and getting everything or missing a few things
(enntered the day you last read up, but after you left) and reading only new
stuff.
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remmers
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response 179 of 283:
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Nov 9 23:59 UTC 1997 |
You can also do "read since -1" to read everything entered in
the last day, "read since -2" to read everything new the last
2 days, etc.
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valerie
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response 180 of 283:
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Nov 10 02:55 UTC 1997 |
This response has been erased.
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kaplan
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response 181 of 283:
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Nov 10 13:02 UTC 1997 |
Re 176, see 173. Your participation file was probably lost when grex's
file system was filled up by vandals.
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tsty
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response 182 of 283:
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Nov 16 02:19 UTC 1997 |
trying to bring anohter newuser in ... throuhg the web this time.
she was doing fine until the VeryEnd when.... a diagnostic
popped up and said something llike, 'you cant use THAT name
because, blah, blah, blah, AND your password is too simple.'
.....all the was at the END of the new-accouont stuff?
her next comment was 'if you knew it was wrong all tha way
back at the start,. that's the place to make the correction,
not at the end, and have to rodo all this junk.'
she killed her connection and said, 'no thankx.'
i wasn't watching over her shoulder, just got her started
and left her to her own devices and overheard the results, noted
above.
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rcurl
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response 183 of 283:
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Nov 16 02:50 UTC 1997 |
Does everything have to be redone if newuser doesn't like a pw? And,
isn't the only reason a username can't be used because it is already
taken? Sounds like something isn't stated clearly.
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janc
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response 184 of 283:
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Nov 16 03:02 UTC 1997 |
Too bad.
But to change this is very difficult. The tty-based newuser checks each
response as you enter it. But the web-based newuser isn't even running until
you submit the form. It has to do all the checking in batch.
However, on any sane browser you should be able to go "back" from the error
message screen and return to the form screen with all your data still in it.
Edit whatever fields are wrong and resubmit. It's not that hard.
Currently the error screen looks something like this:
| Error in Newuser Application
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| Your application for an account on Grex has not been processed due to an
| error in your application.
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| * The password you selected is too short.
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| * The password you selected is too obvious. It should not be an english
| word or a name
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| Please go back to the application form, correct it, and submit it again.
This seems pretty clear, if not especially friendly. I suppose the wording
could be improved, but it seems to me that anyone so easily discouraged isn't
going to last long on Grex anyway.
To make it check it check passwords as soon as you enter it, there are two
basic possibilities:
(1) Run a java applet that does the checking. This requires writing a
java applet, which would would be a lot of work, and would probably
be slow. Password checking requires searching a dictionary, and a
java applet would have to access the dictionary over the net.
(2) Do the login process in a sequence of screens, where you have to
submit each one and wait for it to come up with the next one.
This would be only moderately difficult, but would also be very slow,
since you have to wait for many page refreshes.
I really think that the existing batch interface is the best right now. One
thing I could do would be to have a fresh copy of the form on the error
screen, with the previous values all filled in. This would be only moderately
difficult to implement, and all it would save would be a click of the "back"
button. It's not obvious that it would be worth the effort.
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janc
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response 185 of 283:
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Nov 16 03:08 UTC 1997 |
Rane slipped in. Mostly user names are rejected only if they are already in
use, but there are other reasons, like being too long, having illegal
characters in them (colons, etc), or starting with a digit. I've never seen
a browser that erases the form when you go back, so you shouldn't have to
reenter everything - just change whatever is wrong. However, with 15000
logins in use, it can take a number of attempts to find an unused one.
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rcurl
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response 186 of 283:
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Nov 16 03:15 UTC 1997 |
The dialog *is* a little dry. Maybe "Please go back..." could be modified
so it is clear that it really means BACK. Also, how about some of that
Grexian light-heartedness?
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remmers
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response 187 of 283:
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Nov 16 13:18 UTC 1997 |
Something like this might be clearer:
Use the "BACK" button on your browser to return to the
form. You can then make changes and resubmit it.
(Of course, the "lynx" browser doesn't really have any
"buttons". People who develop web-based applications really are
at the mercy of browser behavior that they can't control...)
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rcurl
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response 188 of 283:
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Nov 17 01:53 UTC 1997 |
"Return to the previous page to edit the form"?
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remmers
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response 189 of 283:
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Nov 18 01:03 UTC 1997 |
People might not know how to do that.
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rcurl
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response 190 of 283:
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Nov 18 05:04 UTC 1997 |
"Click on "Back" to return....."?
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scott
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response 191 of 283:
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Nov 18 12:11 UTC 1997 |
"Use your browser's 'go back' function so you can change your entries"?
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richard
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response 192 of 283:
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Nov 18 16:20 UTC 1997 |
Grex is really slooooowwwww this morning. I was #61 on the wait list.
About twenty five or thirty minutes later, I got on, only to have grex
crash (or at least freeze) after reading only one agora item. I
telnetted back, saw I was #57 this time and said the hell with it, and
Im backtalking now.
With this kind of efficiency, maybe the ISDNs were a waste of money.
Grex doesnt need ISDNs help to be this slow!
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richard
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response 193 of 283:
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Nov 18 16:20 UTC 1997 |
This response has been erased.
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richard
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response 194 of 283:
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Nov 18 16:21 UTC 1997 |
This response has been erased.
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jep
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response 195 of 283:
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Nov 18 16:48 UTC 1997 |
Backtalk is speedy today. I haven't noticed any major delays; it seems
better than normal to me.
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jiffer
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response 196 of 283:
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Nov 19 05:36 UTC 1997 |
HINT: there is almost always a long que in the morning. And more then likely
these people are doing more than just checking mail and etc. Another thing
to keep in mind.... 9-5 is when the internet is almost always busy.
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valerie
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response 197 of 283:
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Nov 19 18:01 UTC 1997 |
This response has been erased.
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richard
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response 198 of 283:
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Nov 19 23:12 UTC 1997 |
wait, jan was telnetted in while you were dialed in? You mean you have
*three* phone lines at your place?! guess its necessary in a two computer
household. Admit it now, the relationship wouldnt last if you had to live
together with only one phone line and had to share computer time :)
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gibson
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response 199 of 283:
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Nov 20 04:06 UTC 1997 |
when i tried to get on last night 4 or 5 times i would get the top half
of the screen ok then the bottom would be gibberish. i gave up til this
evening and still got the same. i waited about an hour and tried again and
finally got a usable connection.
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