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Grex > Helpers > #149: Grex System Problems - Spring 2006 | |
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mcnally
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response 175 of 333:
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May 22 16:26 UTC 2006 |
re #174: do you get an error message of some sort? are you trying to
connect from a browser or a command-line ftp program? Can you ftp to
your own account using the same mechanism as you are trying to use for
the mnac account?
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rcurl
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response 176 of 333:
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May 22 16:36 UTC 2006 |
No error message - just an immediate disconnect after entering the pw. I
am using a command line ftp (via Mac Terminal). I can ftp to my own
account with exactly the same procedure.
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cross
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response 177 of 333:
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May 22 16:51 UTC 2006 |
This response has been erased.
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naftee
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response 178 of 333:
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May 22 17:34 UTC 2006 |
i am a not for profit GreXer
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ball
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response 179 of 333:
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May 23 01:32 UTC 2006 |
Re #174: Have you tried sftp?
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rcurl
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response 180 of 333:
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May 23 01:50 UTC 2006 |
That's what I use. SFTP-2, in fact. Sorry I didn't make that clear. I
*think* the problem might be because the membership isn't current, or there
is a mistake in the membership records; or is a current membership not
required to ftp TO an account?
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mcnally
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response 181 of 333:
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May 23 04:36 UTC 2006 |
membership isn't required to ftp to an account, AND I checked the
groups that that account belongs to: it appears to belong to the
member and internet groups..
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ball
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response 182 of 333:
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May 23 15:47 UTC 2006 |
Re #180: perhaps it's an SSH/SFTP version problem.
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rcurl
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response 183 of 333:
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May 23 17:09 UTC 2006 |
Thanks for checking that, Mike.
I just went through connecting to both rcurl and mnac via SSH-2, using
Terminal's (Mac OSX) Connect-to-Server directly, and both were fine. I
then tried the same thing via SFTP-2, and could only connect to rcurl. The
error message I got trying the connection to mnac was
Connecting to cyberspace.org...
mnac@cyberspace.org's password:
Connection closed
[Process exited - exit code 255]
I even wrote out the mnac pw and copied it to paste in, to make sure I
wasn't entering it incorrectly. Earlier I had changed the pw, and the new
pw is OK to mnac for SSH while SFTP didn't work.
Does the above error message provide any clue?
Mike, are you staff, and able to change the pw and try it? (Just let me
know what you change it to..... 8^}) If you aren't, could a staff member
with root please check this out?
(The Staff list at the Grex website is from Jan '04.)
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mcnally
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response 184 of 333:
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May 23 17:28 UTC 2006 |
I'll give it a try..
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mcnally
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response 185 of 333:
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May 23 17:56 UTC 2006 |
Here's what I tried:
1) su'ed to root, then stashed a copy of the mnac
account's password entry so I could restore it
to normal afterward, then changed the password
to a known string. sftp'ed to grex and tried
to log in but saw the same sort of behavior
Rane is reporting:
mcnally@radius:~$ sftp mnac@cyberspace.org
Connecting to cyberspace.org...
mnac@cyberspace.org's password:
Connection closed
To make sure it wasn't just an authentication
error I logged in using the wrong password
intentionally and got prompted to enter the
password again, so if Rane is not seeing such
a message he must be using the right password.
mcnally@radius:~$ sftp mnac@cyberspace.org
mnac@cyberspace.org's password:
Permission denied, please try again.
Finally, to verify that sftp is working properly
between the two machines, I sftp'ed in as myself
without any problem.
mcnally@radius:~$ sftp mcnally@cyberspace.org
mcnally@cyberspace.org's password:
sftp> quit
One thing that I thought was quite odd is that while
editing the account as root, the password field in the
/etc/passwd entry for mnac is a great deal longer than
for any of the other accounts around it in the password
file. E.g.:
iggy:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:8442:1002::0:0:igor von
heiniken:/a/i/g/iggy:/usr/local/bin/bbssh
marcvh:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:8451:1002::0:0:Marc
VanHeyningen:/c/m/a/marcvh:/bin/bash
fitz:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:8880:1002::0:0:Scotch! Cigars!
Coffee!:/c/f/i/fitz:/bin/csh
gull:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:9062:1002::0:0:David
Brodbeck,Ann Arbor MI:/a/g/u/gull:/bin/bash
mnac:yyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy:92
80:1002::0:0:MNAC:/a/m/n/mnac:/bin/tcsh
The other nearby entries in the password file have
encrypted password hashes that are 28 characters long.
The mnac account has a 60-character long password hash.
Can anyone familiar with the password scheme we're using
tell me why that should be the case and/or whether it has
any bearing on the matter at hand?
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rcurl
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response 186 of 333:
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May 23 18:23 UTC 2006 |
"if Rane is not seeing such a message he must be using the right password"
Yes, I was using the right pw, by this test.
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gayniggerassociation
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response 187 of 333:
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May 23 20:50 UTC 2006 |
GNAA GNAA GNAAGNAA GNAA GNAAGNAA GNAA GNAAGNAA GNAA GNAAGNAA GNAA GNAAGNAA
GNAA GNAA
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rcurl
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response 188 of 333:
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May 23 21:54 UTC 2006 |
Why can't these jerks be stopped?
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nharmon
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response 189 of 333:
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May 23 21:58 UTC 2006 |
They can, but the methods of doing so are not very comfortable.
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scholar
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response 190 of 333:
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May 23 22:07 UTC 2006 |
re. 188: why don't you respond to every post they make with 'jerk'? it's
always worked in the past, hasn't it?
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rcurl
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response 191 of 333:
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May 23 22:25 UTC 2006 |
Yes, it has. However I don't think these new jerks read the conferences.
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scholar
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response 192 of 333:
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May 23 23:33 UTC 2006 |
you'll never know until you try.
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rcurl
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response 193 of 333:
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May 24 01:57 UTC 2006 |
Re #185: that is *really* weird: the wrong pw gets a message to try again,
but the right pw disconnects! Can what happens when using the right pw be
logged?
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slynne
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response 194 of 333:
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May 24 02:07 UTC 2006 |
There really dont seem to be any good methods for dealing with this type
of vandal. We discussed some ideas at the board meeting but none are
likely to be effective. It kind of sucks.
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naftee
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response 195 of 333:
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May 24 02:30 UTC 2006 |
you guys are like the government :(
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cyklone
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response 196 of 333:
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May 24 03:10 UTC 2006 |
On the bright side, the GNAA posts make trap look a lot less offensive
(unless he's behind the latest them).
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keesan
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response 197 of 333:
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May 24 04:38 UTC 2006 |
Can we discontinue newuser telnet/ssh access for a while, or is it also
possible to post 149 copies of trash via the web?
Can someone pick up the droppings in such a manner that they don't leave blank
spots that appear in all the items for the rest of us (which is the problem
with the twit filter).
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keesan
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response 198 of 333:
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May 24 04:39 UTC 2006 |
Is it possible to 'browse new since 17:00' and if so how?
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nharmon
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response 199 of 333:
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May 24 12:27 UTC 2006 |
The conspiracy theorist inside of me tells me that the person behind
these postings was an advocate for closing newuser on Grex and making
it member-only.
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