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25 new of 547 responses total.
cross
response 175 of 547: Mark Unseen   May 4 22:11 UTC 2003

Wonderful.  Sounds great!
steve
response 176 of 547: Mark Unseen   May 4 23:54 UTC 2003

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steve
response 177 of 547: Mark Unseen   May 4 23:56 UTC 2003

   Is the CPU a retail or OEM unit?  If it was retail, the usage of heat sink
compound has voided the warranty.  For an OEM CPU, it isn't quite clear to me
what is what.

   There is an article on this at http://www.xtremetek.com/info/index.php?i
d=14&page=1
that talks about this.

steve
response 178 of 547: Mark Unseen   May 5 00:06 UTC 2003

   I'm glad to hear that it booted up and is running the memory test.  Booting
from a CD at least partly proves that the ide controller works, and that the
CD works, too.
steve
response 179 of 547: Mark Unseen   May 5 01:02 UTC 2003

   Wasn't the ide disk purchased?  Seems one might be able to boot from
that.  But the booting from the cd should indicate that the onboard
ide controller is OK.

aruba
response 180 of 547: Mark Unseen   May 5 03:27 UTC 2003

The hard disks haven't arrived yet, because NewEgg needs our check to
clear before they will mail us anything. 

aruba
response 181 of 547: Mark Unseen   May 5 03:39 UTC 2003

Re #177: That's an interesting article.  Based on it and the other things I
read on the web, I think using the fancy thermal compound was the right
thing to do.
janc
response 182 of 547: Mark Unseen   May 5 03:58 UTC 2003

First draft of a web page on the system construction is at

  http://www.unixpapa.com/newgrex/

Some mediocre photos are included.  This needs more work before it becomes
a staff notes page.
aruba
response 183 of 547: Mark Unseen   May 5 17:02 UTC 2003

When I left home this morning, NextGrex had run 15 cycles of the memory test
(it takes about 67 minutes per cycle), with no memory errors.
tod
response 184 of 547: Mark Unseen   May 5 17:11 UTC 2003

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mary
response 185 of 547: Mark Unseen   May 5 17:16 UTC 2003

A huge thank you to all involved.  This
is too cool.
aruba
response 186 of 547: Mark Unseen   May 5 21:58 UTC 2003

NextGrex has been running over 24 hours now.  It's completed 22 passes of
the memory test, with no errors.
aruba
response 187 of 547: Mark Unseen   May 6 14:13 UTC 2003

NextGrex has now completed 38 cycles of the memory test without an error. 
The room it's in is noticeably cooler than the rest of the house - I think
those 8 fans are really pushing some air around.
jhudson
response 188 of 547: Mark Unseen   May 6 15:43 UTC 2003

lol at the fans
steve
response 189 of 547: Mark Unseen   May 6 16:01 UTC 2003

   I wanted to see USB and FireWire available because the future is not
clear, but having those abilities means we can use them if we want to.
OpenBSD already has some FW support in it; I've been playing with it
and while not stable, it definitely works.  Not quite yet ready for prime
time, but tats OK, since we aren't using it.  USB 2.0 work is evolving
as well.  Unless the specifics of the motherboard have changed again (it
gets confusing looking at Asus stuff), we also have serial ATA, should
we want to go in that direction at some point.  This means we have just
about all the hardware options that exist: FireWire, USB, IDE, SCSI and
SATA, for peripherals.
aruba
response 190 of 547: Mark Unseen   May 6 17:36 UTC 2003

Yes, we definitely have SATA.
aruba
response 191 of 547: Mark Unseen   May 6 21:30 UTC 2003

I pestered NewEgg, about our disks, and they have moved the process along a
bit; with luck they will ship today or tomorrow, and wiht a little more luck
we'll have our disks by the weekend.

I also pestered openbsd.org, which hasn't even charged our credit card yet.
They will be a little longer - they always experience backlogs around the
time of a release, and the version we ordered was released May 1st.  They
haven't gotten to our order date yet, and their ordering FAQ says they can
be as much as 10 days behind at release time.  Then, since it's coming from
Alberta, it will be a week to 10 days before we receive our CDs. :(
steve
response 192 of 547: Mark Unseen   May 6 21:46 UTC 2003

   But that doesn't matter -- we have what we'll install already.  Too bad
about newegg; I've never made an order by anything other than a cc; seems
they are really optimized for that and nothing else.
aruba
response 193 of 547: Mark Unseen   May 7 03:04 UTC 2003

OK, our disks have shipped.  We should receive them on Friday.
gull
response 194 of 547: Mark Unseen   May 7 13:09 UTC 2003

Re #177: That's kind of bone-headed of AMD.  I've seen evidence that the
phase change material simply isn't adequate in some situations, and not
just on overclocked CPUs, either.  A friend of mine put on a heat sink
with just the phase change material, no grease, and the CPU had
overheating problems until he went back and did it with thermal
conductive grease.
aruba
response 195 of 547: Mark Unseen   May 7 16:42 UTC 2003

At the board meeting last night we decided to order two more 18 Gig disks.
Since NewEgg is kind of a pain for us to deal with (though they're just fine
if you want to ship to the address on your credit card), we decided to order
from Leeron, even though his price is slightly higher.  I called Leeron and
did that, and he thinks the disks will be here by Friday.

Our disks from NewEgg are in LA, according to FedEx.
keesan
response 196 of 547: Mark Unseen   May 7 18:03 UTC 2003

How much did grex save overall by ordering from Leeron?  
aruba
response 197 of 547: Mark Unseen   May 7 19:50 UTC 2003

We saved $136 over NewEgg's price, on the stuff we ordered before.  We'll
lose a little bit of it on these disks, because NewEgg's price is lower. 
But we'll have them a lot faster, and returning them if there's a problem
will be a lot easier.
aruba
response 198 of 547: Mark Unseen   May 8 23:39 UTC 2003

The two disks from NewEgg arrived today - I picked them up at the FedEx
office by the airport.
aruba
response 199 of 547: Mark Unseen   May 9 01:19 UTC 2003

BTW, if anyone wants to see the list of what's in the new machine, go to
/----------------------------------------------------\
| http://www.cyberspace.org/~invent/item.cgi?num=256 |
\----------------------------------------------------/
That shows the data for the case, and at the bottom is a list of
everything inside.  You can click on those items for details about them.
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