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kaifiyat
response 175 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 8 18:53 UTC 1998

a wild guess - JFK
rcurl
response 176 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 8 20:24 UTC 1998

John Updike.....whoops, he's probably still alive.
remmers
response 177 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 8 21:07 UTC 1998

Updike is indeed alive and still writing.

Not John Cheever, not JFK.
polygon
response 178 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 8 21:40 UTC 1998

Robert Penn Warren.
remmers
response 179 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 9 01:42 UTC 1998

Not Robert Penn Warren.
remmers
response 180 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 9 12:17 UTC 1998

Another quote from the same work. I've suppressed the name of the
locale in the last paragraph because... because... well, because
that's just the way I am.

        I hung up wondering why they didn't think about the
        bottom of the lake.  She'd had a try at about everything
        else except jumping out a high window. What was the word?
        Self-defenestration. Out the window I must go, I must go,
        I must go...

        Then some fragment of old knowledge began to nudge at the
        back of my mind. After I had the eleven o'clock news on
        the television, I couldn't pay attention because I was
        too busy roaming around the room trying to unearth what
        was trying to attract my attention.

        Then a name surfaced, along with a man's sallow face,
        bitter mouth, knowing eyes. Harry Simmons. A long talk,
        long ago, after a friend of a friend had died. He'd added
        a large chunk onto an existing insurance policy about
        five months before they found him afloat, face-down, in
        [name of location deleted].

wgm
response 181 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 9 22:23 UTC 1998

Sounds like it might be Raymond Chandler (The lady in the lake?)
remmers
response 182 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 10 00:47 UTC 1998

Not too bad a guess, except that the passage refers to eleven
o'clock TV news. There was no such thing in the 1940's when
_Lady in the Lake_ was written. In any case, it's not Chandler.
wgm
response 183 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 10 01:02 UTC 1998

Shucks. Did they have the news at 10, then, because people went to bed
earlier?
remmers
response 184 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 10 02:52 UTC 1998

Nah, the just didn't have TV to any great extent.
wgm
response 185 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 10 21:35 UTC 1998

So to zero in on dating, we need to know that it was late enough for TV news
and early enough that $200 was a lot of money for clothes.
sjones
response 186 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 11 10:10 UTC 1998

late sixties early seventies?  john d macdonald, by any chance?  and boy 
did i have to rack my brain to remember, probably in vain...)
sekari
response 187 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 11 10:45 UTC 1998

To my knowledge John D Macdonald is still alive. But that may be the 
other one, I think there are two of them in the literary field. I know that
one of them is a rather obscure author of young-adult sci-fi books. Hmm, 
I'll have to do some checking on that the next time I'm at the library. 
remmers
response 188 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 11 12:19 UTC 1998

Re #186: Bingo! John D. MacDonald it is. You got the time period right
too. Quotes are from _The Girl in the Plain Brown Wrapper_ ("A Travis
McGee Novel"), published in 1968. Excellent literary detective work by
wgm and sjones. Shucks, I was hoping it would be harder.

John D. MacDonald passed away a few years ago - sometime in the 1980's,
I think. Although best known for crime novels, especially the Travis
McGee series, he did write a bit of scifi and fantasy (_The Girl, the
Gold Watch, and Everything_, _Ballroom of the Stars_). Nothing
young-adult as far as I know, so sekari's probably thinking of a
different MacDonald.

The location I concealed in the second quote was Biscayne Bay. I felt
that revealing a Florida setting might be too big a clue.

Okay, sjones is up for the next quote.
jep
response 189 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 11 13:40 UTC 1998

No, John D. MacDonald did write some young adult science fiction novels.  
I have one of them, though I don't remember the name of it.  I'd read it 
as a kid, then later tracked it down in a used bookstore.

A lot of well-known authors have written science fiction.  Dean R. 
Koontz was a B-grade science fiction author in the 1950's and 60's.  
(They were *awful*.  They gave me hope; if those novels got published, I 
figured I too would be able to write salable science fiction.  When I 
discovered he was a best-selling horror writer, I was pretty surprised.)  
Howard Fast wrote some wonderful science fiction novelettes.
mcnally
response 190 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 11 17:47 UTC 1998

  Perhaps some of you are thinking of the science fiction author/editor
  MacDonald and not Remmers' detective-fiction writing MacDonald.
jep
response 191 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 11 19:37 UTC 1998

I happened to be in Dawn Treader a little while ago, and I looked to see 
if they had the MacDonald book I mentioned earlier.  They didn't, but 
they did have a few books in the science fiction section by John D. 
MacDonald.  I opened one of them, and saw a list of his other works, 
including the Travis McGee series.  This isn't proof of anything -- I 
wasn't familiar with the book I opened, or any other books I saw there 
by MacDonald -- but maybe it's some indication.
sekari
response 192 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 11 19:43 UTC 1998

Yeah, I think we are. I am rather sure that there are two of them because 
I read a book by the sci-fi one and then saw a bunch of books by an 
author of the same name and wondered about it. I will be going to the 
library tomorrow, I'll check this out and report back. 
sjones
response 193 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 11 20:59 UTC 1998

well i never!  what a set of mixed emotions - i was delighted when 
sekari said he was still alive, and then secretly rather glad he was 
dead after all since it meant i was right... sorry, john d!  definitely 
more by luck than good judgement, i must admit, although i've enjoyed 
the travis mcgee ones i've read - really excellent characterisation, i 
think.  very dark, though, aren't they?  in terms of the violence, i 
mean.

okay, here's something from a book i was surprised to see on sale at a 
ridiculously cheap price today, which lead to me buying it and taking it 
round to the dinner party i was on my way to, and being rather less 
social than i should have been...

'And now there was an end of path or road.  More than ever the camel 
seemed insensibly driven; it lengthened and quickened its pace, its head 
pointed straight towards the horizon; through the wide nostrils it drank 
the wind in great draughts.  The litter swayed, and rose and fell like a 
boat in the waves.  Dried leaves in occasional beds rustled underfoot.  
Sometimes a perfume like absinthe sweetened all the air.  Lark and chat 
and rock-swallow leaped to wing, and white partridges ran whistling and 
clucking out of the way.  More rarely a fox or hyena quickened his 
gallop, to study the intruders at a safe distance.  Off to the right 
rose the hills of the Jebel, the pearl-grey veil resting upon them 
changing momentarily into a purple which the sun would make matchless a 
little later.  Over their highest peaks a vulture sailed on broad wings 
into widening circles.  But of all these things the tenant under the 
green tent saw nothing, or at least, made no sign of recognition.  His 
eyes were fixed and dreamy.  The going of the man, like that of the 
animal, was as one being led.'

well, i hope *some* of that will prove to be misleading...)[but of 
course that statement itself might be a double bluff...)]

ps i think i'd rather be simon than sjones - would i have to go back and 
create a new account altogether to be able to do that, or is there any 
way i could shortcut it?
aruba
response 194 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 12 03:17 UTC 1998

I'm afraid you'd have to create a new account and, as luckj would have it,
someone already has login 'simon'.
mcnally
response 195 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 12 06:16 UTC 1998

 re #193:  If you spend enough time encouraging people to call you "Simon"
 it will eventually stick but a lot of people around here (myself included)
 tend to refer to people by login id in the absence of any indication to the
 contrary.  If nothing else it's unlikely to cause serious offense and is
 almost always unambiguous.

 You could always change your name in this conference to "Call me Simon"..
 :-)
sjones
response 196 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 12 09:14 UTC 1998

thanks for the advice, folks - i can see the sensible rationale behind 
using login id as a default, and i wondered if such a simple account 
name might have been taken already - glad to have that cleared up...)

and now, thanks to you lot, i'm struggling with the desire to change 
name to 'Call me Ishmael'...)

but happy, as ever, to come in and find that the very next posted 
message *isn't* 'how obvious and easy, the answer is...'!
remmers
response 197 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 12 13:00 UTC 1998

Re resp:191 - The John D. MacDonald who wrote the Travis McGee series
also wrote some scifi and fantasy, but I suspect it's a different
MacDonald who wrote the young-adult stuff. A web search turned up a
number of fan sites on the "McGee" MacDonald, and some bibliographies,
but nothing about any young-adult scifi that I could spot. I wait
clarification from sekari.

Re Simon's new quote in resp:193 - Great imagery in that passage. I'm
not familiar with it, although I've a guess as to who the author might
be. Since I just gave a quote, I'll refrain.
sjones
response 198 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 12 13:55 UTC 1998

and now i feel as though i'm trying to guess what your guess might be! 
thanks for the name...) [makes me feel as though i'm really here, which 
doesn't sound very rational, but i'll ignore that...]
sekari
response 199 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 14 05:51 UTC 1998

it turns out that I was mistaken. The author I was thinking of is James
D. Macdonald. He has written three or four young adult horror novels 
with his wife Debra Doyle. 
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