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goose
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response 170 of 269:
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May 21 13:12 UTC 2003 |
RE#167 -- I have friends who worked on the movie.
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md
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response 171 of 269:
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May 21 13:17 UTC 2003 |
Yeah, conversations in Matrix I were annoying but probably necessary.
The conversations in Matrix II are just annoying. My kids were making
fun of the big Oracle scene: "Man, that conversation with Oracle was
awesome!" "Dude, greatest conversation I've ever seen in a movie."
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jazz
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response 172 of 269:
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May 21 13:25 UTC 2003 |
I have to agree. The whole franchise would work better if they just
kept everyone quiet, played more music to cover it up, and threw in
explosions every fifteen minutes or so for artistic effect.
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jmsaul
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response 173 of 269:
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May 21 15:11 UTC 2003 |
I meant that the big fight with all of the Smiths was completely CGI.
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jaklumen
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response 174 of 269:
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May 22 02:43 UTC 2003 |
resp:168 I dunno-- the Messianic theme is an old one, but I think the
spin was somewhat new. At any rate, I like the movies and I'll be
watching.
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senna
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response 175 of 269:
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May 22 05:38 UTC 2003 |
I've been amused to see certain people trash the dialogue in Matrix
movies for making stabs at intelligence and depth (regardless of their
success). The trashers, of course, are typically capable of talking
philosophy on higher levels than the movie, but sometimes it seems like
their goal is to *prove* that they are so capable. I'm probably wrong,
but it comes off weird--particularly when you consider a slick but
ultimately formulaic action flick like Gladiator won Best Picture.
Movies often strive to be more than they are, and they sometimes even
succeed, but it's not uncommon for movies to bite off more than an
audience can chew. I admire the people behind the Matrix for putting
some actual thought into the flick, even if it is a mishmash of well-
trod concepts, because that's still a lot better than what you get in
most other movies. It's just a movie, after all. Some people enjoy
that stuff, and be careful what you get taken in by. The wordiest
scene (to avoid spoiling anything, I'll call it the "scene with the
television screens") was so laid on that I got the distinct feeling
that I was watching an event filmed to be largely tongue-in-cheek. The
Wochowskis know that their exposition tends to be "fancy," and I think
they play with it.
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jmsaul
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response 176 of 269:
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May 22 11:53 UTC 2003 |
My problem with the dialogue is that it's too lengthy and repetitive -- which
is basically my problem with Matrix Reloaded in general. The pacing is off.
The scene with all the Smiths in the courtyard is an example. It was cool
for a while, but it went on too long, and it's too repetitive. The first
movie had much, much better pacing.
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gull
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response 177 of 269:
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May 22 13:27 UTC 2003 |
Yeah, that's true. The rave scene is another example. The movie could
have been a lot more tightly edited, but I suppose after you spend a lot
of money on an expensive CGI scene you get reluctant to cut bits of it out.
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jmsaul
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response 178 of 269:
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May 22 16:58 UTC 2003 |
Yet another example, yes. In fact, virtually every scene in the movie is an
example. I think the pacing really hurt it, it would have been improved by
cutting 20% across the board.
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gull
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response 179 of 269:
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May 22 17:15 UTC 2003 |
I think so. When you look at really good action movies, like Star Wars
(Episode IV) or the original Matrix movie, they're cut pretty tightly.
You have to keep the energy level up, and that means not lingering too
long on one scene.
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slynne
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response 180 of 269:
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May 22 17:31 UTC 2003 |
Hmmm. I didnt have the same problems with the pacing of this movie.
There were some parts that I felt were off but they were mostly in the
beginning and were pretty minor.
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flem
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response 181 of 269:
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May 22 18:24 UTC 2003 |
Saw X-men 2 the other day, and I tend to agree with the general opinion I seem
to be hearing that it was better than the first one. Even, I'd go so far as
to say, pretty good. You can usually tell my opinion of a movie, if you're
watching it with me, by how many snide comments I make, and generally by how
noisy I am. If I'm quiet, it's a good movie. If it sucks, I'll constantly
be laughing at the wrong times and doing the mst3k thing. I was pretty quiet
during X2.
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edina
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response 182 of 269:
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May 22 21:23 UTC 2003 |
I saw it with two friends the first time who are the most annoyhingly quiet
movie-goers on teh planet. I saw it the next day with my ex-husband, who
leaned over to me when Wolverine is at Alkali Lake, and said, "Jesus - is he
wearing FLARES!?" I prefer the fun interjection from time to time.
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senna
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response 183 of 269:
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May 23 01:24 UTC 2003 |
I agree about the pacing in Reloaded, at least in certain points. Joe's
pretty much dead-on about the Smith battle, which was interesting, and...
well, long. I got the picture.
Honestly, the Oracle scene seemed a bit rushed. The scene in the first movie
was probably the best part of the film, and it was more laid back. I wonder
if they suffered from losing the actress before they could refine everything.
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oval
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response 184 of 269:
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May 23 13:53 UTC 2003 |
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/30747.html
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gull
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response 185 of 269:
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May 23 14:58 UTC 2003 |
I thought the bits involving the Keymaker, and the use of keys, were the
most interesting concepts this time around.
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edina
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response 186 of 269:
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May 23 17:51 UTC 2003 |
Heh. "Linc, I need a program uploaded to hotwire a . . .Nevermind." Cracked
me up.
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jaklumen
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response 187 of 269:
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May 24 21:11 UTC 2003 |
Julie and I finally saw X2 late yesterday afternoon, despite a young
baby daughter of ours wanting to crawl all over the theater floor. I
was surprised that they put in so many teasers of Jean Grey becoming
the Phoenix (people who don't read the comic books may have missed
this) and I was definitely impressed with the Nightcrawler character.
The CGI for the teleportation effects were terrific.
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aruba
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response 188 of 269:
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May 26 05:30 UTC 2003 |
Saw Matrix II tonight. I haven't decided what I think yet about the
philosphy. (I was suprised that the bits between the fights were mostly
people speaking philosophically - there was more of that than there was plot
developement.) It did spawn a really interesting philosophical discussion
about choice, fate, destiny, and then the nature of the soul, among the
three of us who went. (Afterward, we went to Grizzly Peak in search of one
of those "magic desserts". ;))
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scott
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response 189 of 269:
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May 26 23:21 UTC 2003 |
Saw "A Mighty Wind", Christopher Guest's latest mockumentary. Pretty funny
spoof of the folk music scene, although not quite as funny as "Best in Show".
Maybe more accurate than funny.
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mary
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response 190 of 269:
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May 26 23:24 UTC 2003 |
It's going to be pretty hard to top "Best in Show". But
I too enjoyed "Mighty Wind". Although he totally missed
the activist component. That could have been clever too.
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mary
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response 191 of 269:
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May 26 23:26 UTC 2003 |
"Bruce Almighty" was a whole lot of fun. Morgan Freeman
made a great God.
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jep
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response 192 of 269:
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May 27 00:09 UTC 2003 |
I rented "Jaws" and "Patriot Games" on DVD. I didn't get very far
through "Patriot Games". I just wasn't in the mood for it.
Jaws, though, I hadn't seen except on TV, and that when I was a
teenager. It wasn't keep-me-up terrifying. It was gory in spots, and
silly in spots, but I enjoyed watching it.
Some day there'll be a remake of it with modern graphics. It could be
an amazing Imax movie.
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mooncat
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response 193 of 269:
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May 27 04:55 UTC 2003 |
Saw Spy Kids II, was cute- not quite as cute as the first one, but
close. Antonio Banderas actually does a really good job in these two
movies, he has a nice sense of comic timing. These are definitely kids
movies, but they're really cute.
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edina
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response 194 of 269:
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May 27 15:25 UTC 2003 |
I love those movies!! I think they are great. Well cast, well acted, fun
effects. And I'll see anything wiht Alan Cumming.
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