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aruba
response 17 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 14:44 UTC 1999

THe IRS publication I have about receipts doesn't mention needing the TIN
number.  It's a fairly informal publication, though, so I will look around 
some more.
dpc
response 18 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 16:35 UTC 1999

the TIN is helpful to include because if the donor's tax return is
audited, the auditor will need the TIN to check the validity of
the deduction, I would think.
rcurl
response 19 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 16:43 UTC 1999

Probably true, but auditing is pretty rare. Nevertheless, I expect to
put another organizations TIN number (and also its MICS number) on
its brochure the next time it is reprinted (after 16 years of not
bothering....). 
aruba
response 20 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 18:56 UTC 1999

It sounds like a good idea to me too, and I will include the Tax ID number on 
future receipts.
scott
response 21 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 3 20:30 UTC 1999

Sindi, if you don't like the policy, you can call for a membership vote on
the subject.  The current policy calls for paper receipts to be sent to
all donors above $75 and to any other donors who request one.  There is no
mention of one donor being able to specify who else should receive receipts.
njohns
response 22 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 19:44 UTC 1999

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njohns
response 23 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 19:46 UTC 1999

keesan isn't an eco-terrorist.  She's following the Golden Rule.  "I have the
gold, I rule.  
keesan
response 24 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 4 22:10 UTC 1999

I am not specifying who is to be sent receipts, I am just going to make sure
that I am not one of them, and I strongly request that people do not get sent
requests without at least first asking if they want them, and only sending
to people who say they do want them.  Since Mark sent out emailed notices that
he would be sending paper receipts, it cannot be any more work to only send
receipts to people to respond to the notices.  (He sent me one without waiting
to get my answer first).  Would the board be willing to do a revote on this?
Maybe require email notices to donors of $75 or more, and paper receipts to
only people who request them?
devnull
response 25 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 5 01:42 UTC 1999

Mark should be allowed to handle sending out receipts in whatever way he
finds easiest, especially if the postage costs are reasonable.

I don't see where a $75 cutoff necessarily makes sense.  The IRS defines
a $250 cutoff.
i
response 26 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 5 02:02 UTC 1999

Membership costs $60/year if paid annually, $72/year if paid monthly.  The
idea was almost certainly to send receipts only to those donating above &
beyond normal membership.
aruba
response 27 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 5 03:22 UTC 1999

Right, that was the idea.
cmcgee
response 28 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 5 04:08 UTC 1999

Let the treasurer send out receipts without imposing new, special rules 
made up by one user.  If Sindi wants to put this to a membership vote,
then she can start the procedure.  Otherwise, until the membership 
decides, just keep doing whatever the current procedure is.  
keesan
response 29 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 5 04:37 UTC 1999

I am not imposing rules, just suggesting that the present ones be modified
so as not to send receipts out to people who do not request them.  IF the
board could vote to have a $75 cutoff, they could just as well vote for a $250
cutoff, with email receipts to be sent to anyone who donates over $249, and
paper receipts upon request (asking donors in the email receipt if they want
a paper receipt).  What is the point in having a paper tax receipt when the
IRS does not even require one?  Anyone else who requested a paper receipt
could also have one.  This would save paper, postage, and time.
scg
response 30 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 5 05:17 UTC 1999

(I'm extremely jealous of anybody whose biggest problem is a single, unwanted,
piece of paper)
aruba
response 31 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 5 14:58 UTC 1999

Yeah, I admire your motives, Sindi, but I can't help but think there must be
bigger fish to fry.  For starters, Grex easily gets more than 23 pieces of
junk mail sent to our box each year, since we're listed in the Internic
database by virtue of having a domain name.  How about working on getting
those stopped?
devnull
response 32 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 00:43 UTC 1999

Re #26: I don't understand, though, why it makes any sense to send
receipts for donations above and beyond membership.  Perhaps someone
could explain?

Is there some common reason to want receipts other than for tax deductions?
aruba
response 33 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 02:20 UTC 1999

People who just paid $60/year (or $72/year) for membership won't get receipts
unless they ask for them; I think that's what Walter was saying in #26.
Quite a few people donate money above and beyond regular membership dues,
however.  Most of the people who donated $75 or more in '98 were members who
also sent in money for the Spare Parts Fund.  That pushed their total over
$75.  Does that answer your question Joel?
keesan
response 34 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 02:43 UTC 1999

I think Joel's question was why send receipts at all to people were not
planning to itemize deductions.  At a recent board meeting (second to last)
someone mentioned that a woman who specialized in giving advice to nonprofits
thought that all nonprofits should send receipts for all donations, and the $75
was a compromise.  But since the IRS does not require receipts for under $250,
and since most people do not itemize, I don't see the point.  If anyone wants,
I can check with a few nonprofits on their policy.  I don't ever recall getting
receipts for amounts under $200 before. The woman in question was used to
advising organizations whose primarly function was to collect donations.

I would be happy to attempt to stop the flood of junk mail to grex, if someone
will give me the list of senders of the junk mail.

(I have been trying for many years to get off a few very stubborn mailing
lists myself, and two of them persist in sending me double copies.)
mary
response 35 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 02:52 UTC 1999

We might be an example of why some folks would like receipts for
smaller amounts, like $60.  We give to a number of non-profits,
like Kerrytown Concert House.  In total, they all add up to
a good chunk of money, and I'd like to be able to have clear
proof of that deduction, even though each one is under the $250
threshold.

Actually, Kerrytown Concert House is a good example of a 501(c)3
which sends a "thank you" receipt with each donation whether it be
a fundraiser where we send $40 or $50 or founder's dues each 
spring.  I like getting this mail.  Makes my heart sing. ;-)
rcurl
response 36 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 05:51 UTC 1999

The MKC sends a receipt and thank you letter for any donation - even 
for a buck. It is public relations. They do not send receipts for
dues payments, however, except for the initial dues starting a membership
(because a 'membership package' is send anyway).
pfv
response 37 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 05:56 UTC 1999

        The receipt & a nice "thank you" sound eminently courteous &
        certainly more professional..

        Keep it up.
janc
response 38 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 15:33 UTC 1999

Are MKC memberships considered tax deductable?
aruba
response 39 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 18:36 UTC 1999

(Just to clarify: I do send thank you notes by e-mail for every payment we
receive.)
pfv
response 40 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 19:13 UTC 1999

        re: 39 - 

        Yeah, I sort of thought that was what I'd read/inferred.
rcurl
response 41 of 115: Mark Unseen   Feb 6 20:53 UTC 1999

MKC memberships are fully tax deductible. Want to join?  8^} 
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