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lilmo
response 17 of 43: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 00:58 UTC 1998

PR is not just getting info to "the masses", it is also communication WITHIN
an org, such as (in our case) communicating effectively with members as a
group, and even the vast number of USERS, and even vaster numbers of POTENTIAL
users.  Attendees might even learn something that will help us to better
present our ideals and goals in such a way that we both attract better the
type of user we desire (conf participants and donors), and discourage those
we do not (e-mail-only non-member users).  I hope we don't let this
opportunity slip through our fingers.
steve
response 18 of 43: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 02:09 UTC 1998

   Heh.  I doubt that we'll let it slip through our fingers.  We've
at least 22,000 users who aren't a part of the conferencing fold.
mta
response 19 of 43: Mark Unseen   Sep 30 01:40 UTC 1998

re resp:15

Oops, that'll teach me to check which item I'm responding to.  ;)

That I think would be a great idea if Grex had the money to spare...
keesan
response 20 of 43: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 18:32 UTC 1998

Jim is still working on connecting the Dexter-Chelsea seniors computing class
to grex.  They have no internet connection yet.  He will talk to an instructor
Monday and try to set up a time for some grex volunteer (Misti or Valerie)
to go teach a class there.  We can supply them with $20 grex computers, all
set up to automatically connect to grex, and with newuser accounts all set
up.
mta
response 21 of 43: Mark Unseen   Oct 3 01:26 UTC 1998

Will they  have access to a web browser or will they using Picospan?
keesan
response 22 of 43: Mark Unseen   Oct 3 02:21 UTC 1998

Preferably using grex and Picospan, that is the whole point of this.  We may
know more Monday.  And we are told there are a couple of housebound seniors
who cannot go to class but would like a window on the world, Jim is willing
to take them computers and I can try to teach the basics.  The computer class
is being taught Windows but nothing yet about the Internet.  SOmeone told them
WIn3.1 machines are not internet compatible, they are waiting for newer ones.
remmers
response 23 of 43: Mark Unseen   Oct 3 11:04 UTC 1998

Win3.1 machines not "internet compatible"? That's false.
tsty
response 24 of 43: Mark Unseen   Oct 3 12:08 UTC 1998

false in spades ...
mta
response 25 of 43: Mark Unseen   Oct 3 14:24 UTC 1998

Mark, if you're reading this, I'm willing to donate up to $20 to get these
fine folks copies of the handbook. (Classes without textbooks are hard to
retain.))  Any chance you could do up a small batch in14-16 point?
keesan
response 26 of 43: Mark Unseen   Oct 3 22:10 UTC 1998

Wait until we actually talk to the instructor for the Dexter class, Monday.
Jim has a very simple setup where they just put in the disk, turn on the
computer, and immediately reach email, and can then go to bbs after that, or
use lynx to look at websites.  They may just be confused if they are taught
too much at once, as absolute computer beginners.
mta
response 27 of 43: Mark Unseen   Oct 4 20:03 UTC 1998

Ah, but rhe handbook has a section on using e-mail.  And a section on
nettiquette.  Still, if you think it's best, that's fine.  I'll hold off on
the offer for a while.
aruba
response 28 of 43: Mark Unseen   Oct 6 06:12 UTC 1998

It would be a non-trivial task to change the type sie on the handbook,  but
it could be done.
cmcgee
response 29 of 43: Mark Unseen   Oct 6 18:45 UTC 1998

Mark, if you get me a disc, I'll fix the handbook with all the pagation,
headings, etc set so that changing the type size is easy.  I assume the
handbook is in a (fairly) common word processing program.  If not, it won't
take me much time to retype it.  Send me mail, this is a relatively easy task
for me.
mta
response 30 of 43: Mark Unseen   Oct 6 21:29 UTC 1998

I think it's in pagemaker or some such ... I tried it in Word and the page
numbering was a nightmare in that format.  ;)

Anyway, that's why I'm not able to just do it myself.
aruba
response 31 of 43: Mark Unseen   Oct 6 22:20 UTC 1998

Yeah, the problem, Colleen, is that the handbook is a booklet of folded 8.5x11
sheets, so the order the pages have to print out in is different than the
order that they appear as you read it.  Word couldn't handle that, so I put it 
in PageMaker.  I guess there wouldn't be *too* much to do to increase the type
size, but it would need to be more  pages, and the graphics would have to be
manually moved around.
lilmo
response 32 of 43: Mark Unseen   Oct 7 02:49 UTC 1998

Or increase the page size?
mta
response 33 of 43: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 02:57 UTC 1998

Thus decreasing the usability...
aruba
response 34 of 43: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 05:33 UTC 1998

We would need to be able to print on shets larger than 8.5x11 in order to
increase the page size.
rtgreen
response 35 of 43: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 07:51 UTC 1998

or print individual pages on 8.5 x 11, and then have the printer
rearrange, rotate, and reduce 50% when printing.
aruba
response 36 of 43: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 15:48 UTC 1998

But that would defeat the purpose of making the type bigger.
mta
response 37 of 43: Mark Unseen   Oct 8 22:02 UTC 1998

Also, we don't use a "printer", we use a copy shop.  In general it's a bad
idea to give a copy shop a complex job.  They have enough trouble with the
simple jobs.
rtgreen
response 38 of 43: Mark Unseen   Oct 12 03:42 UTC 1998

My thought was that if it was composed for 8.5 x 11, then pasted into 11 x
17 originals for the copy shop, they could easily make reduced copies for
the booklets, and we could have a small quantity of full-size books made.
For that matter, can the copy shop enlarge our current originals to 11X17,
so that when folded we'd have an 8.5x11 booklet for our sight-impaired
members?
aruba
response 39 of 43: Mark Unseen   Oct 12 04:11 UTC 1998

Maybe.  Next time I'm down there, I'll check.
cmcgee
response 40 of 43: Mark Unseen   Oct 12 13:33 UTC 1998

Also, if you simply double the page size, each page could be printed on 8.5
x 11 paper, portrait-wise.  No need to use special paper, just staple the
sides.  That was what I had in mind in the first place, same pages, enlarged
to 8.5 x 11.  
aruba
response 41 of 43: Mark Unseen   Oct 12 14:16 UTC 1998

How many large-type booklets  are  we talking about printing up?
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