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happyboy
response 17 of 342: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 19:00 UTC 2005

re10: bwa!!!
jadecat
response 18 of 342: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 19:05 UTC 2005

re resp:16 Oh don't get me wrong, I liked it, and there were a few
sniffly bits. But if I want a good cry- either What Dreams May Come or
White Oleander hit me hard...

'Course, I'm also a big believer in 'frame of mind' at the time of
viewing having a huge impact. This may have impacted my viewing
interpretation.
jadecat
response 19 of 342: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 21:04 UTC 2005

Oh, and on Sunday (and again on Monday, though with a different
audience) watched "Must Love Dogs" with Diane Lane and John Cusack. The
story is that recently divorced Sarah (Lane) is being forced back into
the dating pool by her family (widower father played bt Christopher
Plummer). Jake (Cusack) also recently divorced, is pushed back into
dating by his lawyer/friend.

Sarah's sister lists her on an internet personals site- and Sarah has a
few entertaining dates, meets Cusack and it goes well/okay/badly and the
story just kinda meanders from there. The title comes from a line in
Sarah's personal ad that states 'Must love dogs' as a dating
requirement. The main dog is Mother Theresa- who supposedly belongs to
Sarah's brother- yet spends a great deal of time at Sarah's home. 

All three of the other people I watched this with (my hubby on Sunday
and my bro and SIL- who have three dogs) enjoyed it and thought it was a
lot of fun.
tod
response 20 of 342: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 21:08 UTC 2005

*slaps dog on nose with paper*
jadecat
response 21 of 342: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 21:21 UTC 2005

Brute!
richard
response 22 of 342: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 22:30 UTC 2005

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richard
response 23 of 342: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 22:33 UTC 2005

Having seen the new version, I re-watched the original King Kong 
(1933), which was airing on TCM yesterday.  It had been a good while 
since I'd seen the original, and I was taken with several jarring 
differences with the Jackson remake:

1. King Kong in the original is quite mean and vicious.  He eats people 
and spits them out indiscriminately, yanks a woman out of her high rise 
apartment building, but then throws her to her death when he realizes 
she's not Fay Wray.  Kong is so mean that you have little sympathy for 
his getting captured and later dying.  

In Jackson's version, King Kong has a heart of gold, he only violently 
kills dinosaurs and other monsters who are attacking him or his friend 
(the girl), and only kills humans who are trying to kill him.  King 
Kong in this movie does not live to constantly fight, he is rather a 
battle scarred being who only wants to sit on his cliff and watch the 
sun rise, and to have his one special friend.

2. In the original King Kong, Anne Darrow (Fay Wray)is totally 
unsypathetic to Kong, she is terrified of Kong.  She does not talk to 
Kong, and is complicit in his capture and gladly goes to the theater 
back in NYC for Kong's exhibition.  She is glad Kong died.

In Jackson's King Kong, Anne Darrow (Naomi Watts) bonds very tenderly 
with Kong, learns to trust and love the big guy.  She stays with him 
cuddling next to him overnight and they watch the sun rise together on 
the cliff.  She is mortified when her shipmates attack him and try to 
capture him, and screams at them to leave Kong alone.  She refuses to 
participate in Kong's exhibition, refuses to even go near the theater 
where they are exploiting her friend, and they have to use a "fake" 
Anne Darrow to be introduced on stage.  They watch the sun rise on top 
of the Empire State building, and when the planes come to attack Kong, 
she throws herself in front of Kong in an attempt to get them to not 
shoot at him.  She cries crocodile tears when Kong dies.  She has lost 
her friend.

3. In the original King Kong, they make the egregious error of having 
the Brontosaurauses attacking and EATING humans.  EVERYONE knows that 
Bronotosaurases were vegetarians AND pacifists.  Of course they made 
the film in 1933 so maybe they didn't know better.

In the remake, the Brontos eat trees and plants, and do NOT attack the 
humans. 

4. In the original, the Skull Island natives were a bunch of actors on 
the lot wearing fake-ish indian getups.  In the remake, the natives are 
actual aborigines, as the movie was shot on location at an island near 
New Zealand.

5. In the original, Kong walks around on two feet at times like a human 
being.  In Jackson's remake, Kong always walks on all fours, like a 
gorilla should, and Kong is dirty and scarred like a gorilla living on 
that hellish island should be.  Kong also has to keep swatting the 
flies away from his face.

Both versions are well worth seeing, those are just some of the 
contrasts.
marcvh
response 24 of 342: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 22:36 UTC 2005

Um, do you know what "crocodile tears" means?
richard
response 25 of 342: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 22:43 UTC 2005

whatever it might mean to some, I was just using that term to imply BIG 
tears, WEEPY tears.  Tears of agony at losing a dear friend.  
tod
response 26 of 342: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 22:45 UTC 2005

Crocodile tears are fake ones.
richard
response 27 of 342: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 22:52 UTC 2005

Okay so that was a bad analogy though.  Her tears were real.  She loved 
Kong.  
tod
response 28 of 342: Mark Unseen   Dec 27 23:00 UTC 2005

Was she from Enumclaw?
gull
response 29 of 342: Mark Unseen   Dec 28 20:41 UTC 2005

LOL! 
marcvh
response 30 of 342: Mark Unseen   Dec 28 20:54 UTC 2005

For the benefit of the geographically challenged, KONG is a Seattle TV
station (channel 16 OTA, channel 6 on most cable systems) run by the
same people who run the local NBC affiliate, KING (channel 5.)  Their
call letters make words, get it?  Ha ha!  It's so clever!

KONG was created for the purpose of spectrum-squatting, mostly airing
old TV shows from the 70s and re-runs of locally produced garbage. 
Today it has added more repeat sydnicated crap, encore airings of Conan
and local news and such.  They don't air many movies.
twenex
response 31 of 342: Mark Unseen   Dec 28 20:57 UTC 2005

KONG and KING? GOD and GOOD.
tod
response 32 of 342: Mark Unseen   Dec 28 20:59 UTC 2005

Actually, the Enumclaw reference was referring to the "full service"
zoo/bathhouse.
gull
response 33 of 342: Mark Unseen   Dec 28 21:00 UTC 2005

Which is much funnier. 
marcvh
response 34 of 342: Mark Unseen   Dec 28 21:07 UTC 2005

Fair enough, although I think it would require some yoga lessons first.
tod
response 35 of 342: Mark Unseen   Dec 28 21:19 UTC 2005

OUCH
drew
response 36 of 342: Mark Unseen   Dec 28 21:23 UTC 2005

I think Kroger has some on sale this week...
richard
response 37 of 342: Mark Unseen   Jan 14 21:30 UTC 2006

"GOOD NIGHT AND GOOD LUCK"-- Finally saw this last night, George 
Clooney's movie tribute to legendary CBS newsman Edward R. Murrow, and 
its really good, not to mention quite relevant to today's times.  The 
movie is about Edward R. Murrow's CBS news show in the 1950's and the 
time when he used his program to take on Sen. Joe McCarthy over his 
communist witch-hunt hearings.  This was the dark period in recent 
ameriacn history where McCarthy and his conservative cohorts, claiming 
a communist conspiracy in this country, sought to seek out and destroy 
all communists in the u.s. and in the process ruined the lives of a lot 
of people.  Murrow called him on it and the two had a famous feud.  

This is a movie everyone should see who has an interest in recent 
american history, and who wants perspective about the things going on 
in the world now.  After all, the McCarthy-era paranoia has re-surfaced 
dramatically after 9/11.  Today you just replace the word "commun"ist 
with the word "terror"ist, and you really have the same kind of 
hysteria among certain parts of the political spectrum.

The movie is well directed by Clooney and has a great performance by 
David Straithhairn as Edward R. Murrow, which deserves Oscar 
consideration.  The cinematography and sets are terrific, bringing 
alive the smoke-filled newsrooms of CBS in the mid 1950's.  

The movie ends with Ed Murrow's famous speech before an industry 
gathering, where he said that the executives running television had 
become 

"fat, comfortable, and complacent" and he blasted television for "being 
used to detract, delude, amuse and insulate us" as opposed to educating 
us to be better citizens.  Everything Murrow said is more true today 
than it was when he spoke the words.   (Good Night and Good Luck...five 
stars)
 
scott
response 38 of 342: Mark Unseen   Jan 14 22:43 UTC 2006

"League of Extraordinary Gentleman"  (DVD from the local library)

Somewhat entertaining, somewhat cheesy.  Notable in that everything about it
is completely implausible from any angle you can think of - political,
engineering, literary, logic, etc.
nharmon
response 39 of 342: Mark Unseen   Jan 15 00:06 UTC 2006

I found it comical in that movie that Quatermain implied that "American
style" shooting was more-or-less "spray and pray". The truth however,
was that the American military waited quite a long time before adopting
automatic weapons. The justification was that automatic weapons "wasted
ammunition".
twenex
response 40 of 342: Mark Unseen   Jan 15 01:30 UTC 2006

I don't think you'll find he was referring to the use of automatic weapons.
For one thing, they might well have not been out at the time the film was set, 
if it was set in the time of H Rider Haggards Quartermain.
scott
response 41 of 342: Mark Unseen   Jan 15 01:35 UTC 2006

All sorts of things - a giant submarine finding enough depth to navigate
Venetian canals?  Blowing up a building to keep it from being knocked down?
Somehow it's more efficient to build a huge factory in the remotest part of
China?  Having to trump up a world war in order to find customers for weapons?
And don't get me started on the characters themselves...
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