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response 169 of 335:
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Oct 26 15:29 UTC 2001 |
Grex's established procedures for board meeting and decision making are
what they are, in my opinion, because of the belief that the quality of
the discussion and the decisions made will be sufficiently better to
justify the additional effort. In my opinion, the status quo is what it
is because the founders knew it would be better for Grex this way.
I do not believe this has changed, and I believe the 'candidacy' of jp2
is a perfect example of why the status quo is simply superior to other
options at this time.
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aruba
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response 170 of 335:
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Oct 26 15:31 UTC 2001 |
I think we are all about community. Part of the way the Grex community
interacts has always been face-to-face, and I for one think it's an
essential part: I would never have become very involved with Grex if I
hadn't seen the possibility of meeting people face-to-face.
I have no objection to totally online communities like The River, but they
don't really interest me much, either. I like the fact that the Grex
community straddles the line between cyberspace and meatspace.
I think I could jump over a candlestick if I had a running start.
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jp2
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response 171 of 335:
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Oct 26 15:31 UTC 2001 |
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aruba
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response 172 of 335:
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Oct 26 15:32 UTC 2001 |
Eric slipped in - #170 was a response to #168.
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jp2
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response 173 of 335:
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Oct 26 15:33 UTC 2001 |
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other
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response 174 of 335:
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Oct 26 15:42 UTC 2001 |
Our very existence contravenes your suggestion that Grex does not believe
in online communications. However, the management/oversight of our
organization is better served by a higher level of communication in the
decision making process than is presently available remotely without
current technological and financial resources.
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other
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response 175 of 335:
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Oct 26 15:42 UTC 2001 |
in the above...
:/without/with our
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jp2
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response 176 of 335:
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Oct 26 15:53 UTC 2001 |
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gull
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response 177 of 335:
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Oct 26 15:59 UTC 2001 |
Re #171: It's possible to believe in online communication without
believing it's ideal for every situation. (I believe that screwdrivers
are useful, but I do not use them to hammer nails.)
For example, I communicate online a lot, so I suppose I "believe in
it." But I've also seen long, bitter online arguments solved by a few
minutes of face-to-face conversation, or in some cases even telephone
conversation. There's just no substitute for the emotional feedback
you get from seeing the other person's face or hearing their voice.
Online it's just too easy to forget that the other person has feelings,
or to mistake their tone of voice for something other than it is. In
general people tend to seem colder and more sarcastic online, which
leads to a lot of unnecessary defensiveness.
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jp2
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response 178 of 335:
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Oct 26 16:05 UTC 2001 |
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aruba
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response 179 of 335:
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Oct 26 16:13 UTC 2001 |
I couldn't agree more with #177. Well put.
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keesan
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response 180 of 335:
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Oct 26 16:14 UTC 2001 |
There are some people (autistic, etc.) who do better communicating via one
sense at a time. The sensory overload of face to face communication is too
much for them to handle. They have trouble dealing with the words and the
emotions at the same time.
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anderyn
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response 181 of 335:
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Oct 26 16:14 UTC 2001 |
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tfbjr
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response 182 of 335:
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Oct 26 16:20 UTC 2001 |
Do you really believe that personality issues do not matter?
One Fortune 500 company I worked for had a very harsh VP. He stepped on too
many toes, and was escorted out by security one day after stepping on the
wrong toes.
Build your platform, then. Be *concrete* and explain how you are an asset.
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jp2
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response 183 of 335:
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Oct 26 16:36 UTC 2001 |
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aruba
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response 184 of 335:
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Oct 26 16:54 UTC 2001 |
What kind of advertising do you have in mind?
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jp2
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response 185 of 335:
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Oct 26 17:06 UTC 2001 |
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other
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response 186 of 335:
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Oct 26 19:05 UTC 2001 |
re #180 Are you suggesting that jp2 is autistic? That might explain
some things...
re #176
> Now, I would like to know if someone can explain what makes Grex so
> special that the same management techniques that companies like IBM,
> Microsoft, GM, and others use to run their business cannot work here.
Well, now. I suppose that if you had actually *read* what you are
claiming to be responding to, you have noticed the part about "our
current technological and financial resources" determining the parameters
within which we will meet. I did not suggest that remote meeting would
be impossible if we had the resources of the megacorps you use as
examples.
re # 185 The supposed 'logic' behind your suggestion for joint
memberships has in earlier discussions proven so thoroughly deficient
that it is not even worth further response.
Jamie, I have to say that I do hope you will continue to voice your
opinions on Grex, as that is the surest possible way to assure that you
will never have any significant impact upon our policy or management
practices, except possibly to reinforce our perceptions of the decisions
we have made as being the correct ones.
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jp2
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response 187 of 335:
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Oct 26 19:23 UTC 2001 |
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jp2
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response 188 of 335:
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Oct 26 19:25 UTC 2001 |
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other
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response 189 of 335:
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Oct 26 20:00 UTC 2001 |
I suppose you would be willing to cover the cost of a portable 100Mbps
real-time, full-screen videoconferencing setup? I'd like to see that.
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jp2
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response 190 of 335:
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Oct 26 20:00 UTC 2001 |
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other
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response 191 of 335:
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Oct 26 20:07 UTC 2001 |
Inadequate to the purpose.
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jp2
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response 192 of 335:
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Oct 26 20:09 UTC 2001 |
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other
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response 193 of 335:
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Oct 26 20:10 UTC 2001 |
Inadequate to the purpose for Grex. We're not talking about M-Net.
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