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senna
response 166 of 199: Mark Unseen   Nov 27 02:44 UTC 2001

I don't know.  Oklahoma, at least, succumbed to problems that had been visible
all season.  Nebraska's meltdown is as shocking as any I've seen in college
football.
gelinas
response 167 of 199: Mark Unseen   Dec 9 05:17 UTC 2001

So I caught the end of the SEC championship game.  The Citrus Bowl is going
to be interesting, but I fear it may not be much fun.  I hope the offense
can get its act together this month.
albaugh
response 168 of 199: Mark Unseen   Dec 9 14:26 UTC 2001

I believe you're referring to a possible UM - Tennessee matchup...
gelinas
response 169 of 199: Mark Unseen   Dec 9 22:52 UTC 2001

Until today's paper, everything I read listed it as "definite" not "possible".
But yeah, that's what I was refering to.
tpryan
response 170 of 199: Mark Unseen   Dec 9 23:49 UTC 2001

        Well, at least the Lions did not snatch defeat from the 
jaws of victory today.  Tampa Bay just beat them when it mattered.
senna
response 171 of 199: Mark Unseen   Dec 10 02:28 UTC 2001

Depends on how you define it.  The Lions continue to be great theatre.  
gelinas
response 172 of 199: Mark Unseen   Dec 10 04:12 UTC 2001

I watched the last quarter.  Almost, they had me hoping.
senna
response 173 of 199: Mark Unseen   Dec 10 08:50 UTC 2001

Hope springs eternal.  It's fun watching the Lions with a detached pessimism;
instead of worrying about the dire possibilities of a successfully completed
winning drive by Tampa Bay, I am left wondering how they will be able to
produce a touchdown when it seems to unlikely.  Because, after all, they're
certain to do it.
tpryan
response 174 of 199: Mark Unseen   Dec 10 17:39 UTC 2001

        I tuned into the game inadvertently.  When I saw that the
Lions where ahead near the end of the game.  I wanted to see how
they could ness it up.  Instead, Tampa Bay just played better.
Losing the return kickoff just broke all hope, unlikely to see the
Lions do anything with possesion and less than a minute on the clock.
brighn
response 175 of 199: Mark Unseen   Dec 10 18:40 UTC 2001

The Bucs played atrociously except for the first quarter. The Lions let them
win. There's no excuse for not one but two fourth-down 15-yd passes, followed
by a game-winning pass to the *same player* that got the other two heroic
passes.

Then again, I want the Lions to go 0-16, so I'm still happy. =}
albaugh
response 176 of 199: Mark Unseen   Dec 10 22:39 UTC 2001

Now, will next year's issue of the BCS "rules" have something in there about
conference champions getting precedence over those they have beaten,
"regardless" of record?  In this case, I'm referring to 10-2 Colorado having
beaten 10-1 Nebraska, and winning the Big-12 championship, including a win
over Texas, the team that beat them earlier in the year.  This year's BCS put
Nebraska ahead, based on some marginal categories.  But that decision / rule
is a great detriment to the concept of conference championships!  

OTOH, I *hate* it when for the post-season conference tournaments for
basketball, some conference has a tournament champion with a losing record
that gets the NCAA bid.  I think that should be "outlawed".
gelinas
response 177 of 199: Mark Unseen   Dec 11 01:29 UTC 2001

I think Jim C.  had _one_ good idea in his column this evening:  Take the 
pressure off the "national championship."  Two polls, two hundred champions
works for me.  

College football ends on New Year's Day.
gelinas
response 178 of 199: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 03:58 UTC 2001

I've heard that the Lions missed their opportunity to set a record for the
most losses without a win at the beginning of a season:  they now have a 1-12
record.
krj
response 179 of 199: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 05:11 UTC 2001

Darn.  Who will remember a 2-14 season?
gelinas
response 180 of 199: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 05:17 UTC 2001

But who can forget a 0-12 start?  At least until it's replaced by something
more spectacular.
ea
response 181 of 199: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 05:26 UTC 2001

there's always next year
brighn
response 182 of 199: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 16:04 UTC 2001

#180> there's been an 0-15 season.
 
The Lions are now *tied* for the worst record in football, with Carolina, who
(with 12 losses in a row) could still nudge the Lions for the worst record,
and the longest losing streak (the Lions had had 13, including 1 from the last
season, although the *longest* losing streak belongs to Tampa Bay, I believe,
which didn't win a game until its 27th, in its second season).
gelinas
response 183 of 199: Mark Unseen   Dec 17 22:26 UTC 2001

I thought the worst start had been Tampa Bay at 0-14.  That was the record
I expected them to meet and maybe beat.

I think it'll take more than a few 8-8 seasons to wipe out the memory of this
one.  A 16-0 next season _might_ do it.
brighn
response 184 of 199: Mark Unseen   Dec 18 01:05 UTC 2001

oh, I think you're right, TB went 0-14 then 2-12.
gelinas
response 185 of 199: Mark Unseen   Dec 23 05:13 UTC 2001

The other day, I started reading some columnist's opinion that Tom Brady was
a 'fraud'.  I read about half of it and gave up, setting it aside for later
consideration.  ESPN2 just showed some highlights of an apparently recent
game, one of which was Brady catching a pass for a first down.  
albaugh
response 186 of 199: Mark Unseen   Dec 25 07:45 UTC 2001

I don't see how a "fraud" could survive in the NFL...
ea
response 187 of 199: Mark Unseen   Jan 2 22:23 UTC 2002

Ouch.  That was not a good football game.  It's only Michigan's worst 
bowl loss in history ...  Michigan spent too much time trying to 
establish the run, and it took Lloyd Carr too long to realize that The 
Run had been established, and it was not working.  I know, traditional 
Big Ten offense requires having a strong running game, but if you have 
a good passing offense, it will open up the defense, and allow you to 
run the football.

In other Big Ten news, Ohio State went from being down 28-0 to having 
the game tied at 28-28, then losing to South Carolina, on a last second 
field goal (only over the bar by about 3 inches)
gelinas
response 188 of 199: Mark Unseen   Jan 3 03:35 UTC 2002

Yeah, but Michigan doesn't seem to have much of a passing game, either.
gelinas
response 189 of 199: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 04:54 UTC 2002

So the Lions said good bye to the Silverdome by winning.  I'd have liked to
have seen the game, now that I know how it turned out.  It looked like they
got an "excessive celebration" penalty after the second (?) touchdown.
ea
response 190 of 199: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 18:29 UTC 2002

It wasn't an "excessive celebration"  The flag was for a facemask on 
the defense.  The penalty was assessed on the ensuing kickoff.  
Although, if the NFL had the excessive celebration rule, Johnie Morton 
would've been flagged for doing the "worm" dance in the endzone after 
he scored that touchdown.
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