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gelinas
response 159 of 235: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 13:40 UTC 2004

No, the remedy was NOT clear.  Some of us are still not convinced the removals
were abuse.  If this proposal is aprroved, future such removals would clearly
be abuse.
jp2
response 160 of 235: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 14:05 UTC 2004

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albaugh
response 161 of 235: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 18:39 UTC 2004

It's clear that you are Puerile.  How can it not be clear that you're a ninny?
jmsaul
response 162 of 235: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 22:28 UTC 2004

It's clear that you guys don't get along, but I've never seen anything
that would indicate to me that Valerie had the right to do what she did.
tod
response 163 of 235: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 22:28 UTC 2004

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remmers
response 164 of 235: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 01:42 UTC 2004

Joe G. has asked that this be moved to a vote, so the vote is scheduled
to start at midnight tonight.  Voting will end at midnight ten days
later.

Since there's another vote already in progress, frequent voters will
notice that the two-choice menu is back.  If you try to vote on Joe's
proposal before midnight tonight though, you'll see a message that
the polls haven't opened yet.
jp2
response 165 of 235: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 02:02 UTC 2004

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gelinas
response 166 of 235: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 03:08 UTC 2004

Thank you, jp2. :)
jp2
response 167 of 235: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 03:40 UTC 2004

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remmers
response 168 of 235: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 13:59 UTC 2004

I'm trying to understand the amount of latitude this would give for
individual conferences to set their own policies.

For example, would it be consistent with this proposal for the Classified
Conference to have the policy that an item advertising something for sale
can be removed when the item is sold, or if the seller decides not to sell
it?

Would it be consistent for a fairwitness to set the policy that items more
than one year old could be deleted without notice, provided that the policy
is adequately publicized to the conference participants?  Or could be
deleted on the request of the person who posted the item, again presuming
that the policy was adequately publicized?

I guess I'm unclear on the intent of the part that says "...an item may
be removed only if it violates the general policies of Grex or the 
conference it was entered in," relative to these examples.
albaugh
response 169 of 235: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 21:01 UTC 2004

#154 would seem to merely make explicity what most people (except maybe
valerie) thought already was the policy on item deletion.  Since it seems not
to proport more than that, I can recommend a "yes" vote.  That is, "for all
the good it will do", given that rogue fw's & staff...
rational
response 170 of 235: Mark Unseen   Mar 4 22:56 UTC 2004

Stop being idiots.  None of you are better than jp2.
gelinas
response 171 of 235: Mark Unseen   Mar 5 00:08 UTC 2004

(I am also an exception, along with valerie.  Which is why I made the
proposal.)

Yes, all of your examples would fall under "permitted removals", John,
*presuming* the conference-specific policies were promulgated in advance.
In the case of adopting a new policy, I'd leave it to the conference
participants to decide whether items should be 'grandfathered.'
rational
response 172 of 235: Mark Unseen   Mar 5 00:19 UTC 2004

This is absurdly obscure for something that's public.
mdw
response 173 of 235: Mark Unseen   Mar 7 04:14 UTC 2004

I voted "no" on this.  I don't think it solves any real problems, and it
creates the potential for more confusion.
gelinas
response 174 of 235: Mark Unseen   Mar 10 00:44 UTC 2004

I read someone say that they voted "No" on this proposal because they don't
feel it solves any real problem.  I disagree; *IF* this proposal is approved,
then we will have a better idea of when items can be removed.  

This will do nothing about the current controversy, but nor is it intended
to.  It won't _prevent_ a future occurrence, but it will make plainer what
to do, since that which should not be removed should be restored.
tod
response 175 of 235: Mark Unseen   Mar 10 00:55 UTC 2004

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gelinas
response 176 of 235: Mark Unseen   Mar 10 01:05 UTC 2004

There was not agreement that the material should not have been removed.
jp2
response 177 of 235: Mark Unseen   Mar 10 01:28 UTC 2004

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tod
response 178 of 235: Mark Unseen   Mar 10 01:33 UTC 2004

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gelinas
response 179 of 235: Mark Unseen   Mar 10 01:37 UTC 2004

Valerie's actions got put up for a vote because there was no clear guidance
on what to do.  This proposal would provide that guidance, should there be
another occurrence.
rational
response 180 of 235: Mark Unseen   Mar 10 01:49 UTC 2004

Did you know testicles come from the same stuff as ovaries?
jp2
response 181 of 235: Mark Unseen   Mar 10 02:06 UTC 2004

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gelinas
response 182 of 235: Mark Unseen   Mar 10 02:14 UTC 2004

At least the "status quo" would be recognised.
tod
response 183 of 235: Mark Unseen   Mar 10 18:06 UTC 2004

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