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tod
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response 158 of 269:
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May 20 17:07 UTC 2003 |
This response has been erased.
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remmers
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response 159 of 269:
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May 20 17:32 UTC 2003 |
I grew up in the middle of Indiana. Still not compelling.
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remmers
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response 160 of 269:
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May 20 17:33 UTC 2003 |
(Apparently, "Children of the Corn" has had SIX sequels.)
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md
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response 161 of 269:
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May 20 22:54 UTC 2003 |
We saw Matrix II over the weekend. Not bad. I liked the special
effects. The celebrated fight with the multiple Smiths was the best in
that respect, although from a logic-and-reason standpoint you wonder
why Neo didn't just fly away in the first place. I mean, since he
could, and eventually did, just fly away.
I feel sorry for poor Trinity, though. She always storms in like
gangbusters only to get her butt kicked by the bad guys. She's not a
great fighter. But there was some mention of a mystery uberwoman at
the end. Could that be Trinity in Matrix III?
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gull
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response 162 of 269:
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May 20 23:07 UTC 2003 |
Re #161: Based on the fight at the beginning of the movie, I suspect Neo
just likes to kick agent ass. I assumed the fight with the Smiths
before he flew away was pretty much recreational until there were just
plain too many for him.
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slynne
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response 163 of 269:
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May 21 02:31 UTC 2003 |
It was pretty cool though!
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gull
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response 164 of 269:
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May 21 02:59 UTC 2003 |
No arguments. :)
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jmsaul
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response 165 of 269:
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May 21 03:11 UTC 2003 |
It was also completely CGI. I was surprised.
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goose
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response 166 of 269:
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May 21 03:56 UTC 2003 |
I dunno how they say it's completely CGI. They shot a lot of film on Alemeda.
(I was living quite close to one of the sets)
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pvn
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response 167 of 269:
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May 21 07:07 UTC 2003 |
How do you know you were living close to one of the sets?
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anderyn
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response 168 of 269:
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May 21 12:16 UTC 2003 |
We may wait to see Matrix:Reloaded when the third movie comes out. I waited
until last week to see the first one. And wasn't super thrilled with it. It
was okay, but ... the plot is something I've seen/read a million times before,
and it's not one of my favorites. The big scenes WERE amazing, but what I'd
really like is the edit where you just see the cool fight scenes (and maybe
the "there is no spoon" one...). :-)
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gull
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response 169 of 269:
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May 21 13:11 UTC 2003 |
He *thinks* he was living close to one of the sets, but it's all an
elaborate simulation. ;)
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goose
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response 170 of 269:
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May 21 13:12 UTC 2003 |
RE#167 -- I have friends who worked on the movie.
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md
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response 171 of 269:
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May 21 13:17 UTC 2003 |
Yeah, conversations in Matrix I were annoying but probably necessary.
The conversations in Matrix II are just annoying. My kids were making
fun of the big Oracle scene: "Man, that conversation with Oracle was
awesome!" "Dude, greatest conversation I've ever seen in a movie."
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jazz
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response 172 of 269:
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May 21 13:25 UTC 2003 |
I have to agree. The whole franchise would work better if they just
kept everyone quiet, played more music to cover it up, and threw in
explosions every fifteen minutes or so for artistic effect.
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jmsaul
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response 173 of 269:
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May 21 15:11 UTC 2003 |
I meant that the big fight with all of the Smiths was completely CGI.
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jaklumen
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response 174 of 269:
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May 22 02:43 UTC 2003 |
resp:168 I dunno-- the Messianic theme is an old one, but I think the
spin was somewhat new. At any rate, I like the movies and I'll be
watching.
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senna
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response 175 of 269:
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May 22 05:38 UTC 2003 |
I've been amused to see certain people trash the dialogue in Matrix
movies for making stabs at intelligence and depth (regardless of their
success). The trashers, of course, are typically capable of talking
philosophy on higher levels than the movie, but sometimes it seems like
their goal is to *prove* that they are so capable. I'm probably wrong,
but it comes off weird--particularly when you consider a slick but
ultimately formulaic action flick like Gladiator won Best Picture.
Movies often strive to be more than they are, and they sometimes even
succeed, but it's not uncommon for movies to bite off more than an
audience can chew. I admire the people behind the Matrix for putting
some actual thought into the flick, even if it is a mishmash of well-
trod concepts, because that's still a lot better than what you get in
most other movies. It's just a movie, after all. Some people enjoy
that stuff, and be careful what you get taken in by. The wordiest
scene (to avoid spoiling anything, I'll call it the "scene with the
television screens") was so laid on that I got the distinct feeling
that I was watching an event filmed to be largely tongue-in-cheek. The
Wochowskis know that their exposition tends to be "fancy," and I think
they play with it.
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jmsaul
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response 176 of 269:
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May 22 11:53 UTC 2003 |
My problem with the dialogue is that it's too lengthy and repetitive -- which
is basically my problem with Matrix Reloaded in general. The pacing is off.
The scene with all the Smiths in the courtyard is an example. It was cool
for a while, but it went on too long, and it's too repetitive. The first
movie had much, much better pacing.
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gull
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response 177 of 269:
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May 22 13:27 UTC 2003 |
Yeah, that's true. The rave scene is another example. The movie could
have been a lot more tightly edited, but I suppose after you spend a lot
of money on an expensive CGI scene you get reluctant to cut bits of it out.
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jmsaul
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response 178 of 269:
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May 22 16:58 UTC 2003 |
Yet another example, yes. In fact, virtually every scene in the movie is an
example. I think the pacing really hurt it, it would have been improved by
cutting 20% across the board.
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gull
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response 179 of 269:
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May 22 17:15 UTC 2003 |
I think so. When you look at really good action movies, like Star Wars
(Episode IV) or the original Matrix movie, they're cut pretty tightly.
You have to keep the energy level up, and that means not lingering too
long on one scene.
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slynne
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response 180 of 269:
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May 22 17:31 UTC 2003 |
Hmmm. I didnt have the same problems with the pacing of this movie.
There were some parts that I felt were off but they were mostly in the
beginning and were pretty minor.
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flem
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response 181 of 269:
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May 22 18:24 UTC 2003 |
Saw X-men 2 the other day, and I tend to agree with the general opinion I seem
to be hearing that it was better than the first one. Even, I'd go so far as
to say, pretty good. You can usually tell my opinion of a movie, if you're
watching it with me, by how many snide comments I make, and generally by how
noisy I am. If I'm quiet, it's a good movie. If it sucks, I'll constantly
be laughing at the wrong times and doing the mst3k thing. I was pretty quiet
during X2.
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edina
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response 182 of 269:
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May 22 21:23 UTC 2003 |
I saw it with two friends the first time who are the most annoyhingly quiet
movie-goers on teh planet. I saw it the next day with my ex-husband, who
leaned over to me when Wolverine is at Alkali Lake, and said, "Jesus - is he
wearing FLARES!?" I prefer the fun interjection from time to time.
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