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gypsi
response 157 of 207: Mark Unseen   Jul 13 00:09 UTC 2000

<laughs>  I'm in agreement with John Remmers.  =)
lelande
response 158 of 207: Mark Unseen   Jul 20 05:30 UTC 2000

ye gods.
/raises hand and confesses -- "i was a teenage randroid"

/sob
ruva
response 159 of 207: Mark Unseen   Sep 8 16:36 UTC 2000

Boks
Books
get #25
quit
bubbleup
response 160 of 207: Mark Unseen   Feb 23 22:49 UTC 2001

Books are cool.
foolish
response 161 of 207: Mark Unseen   Jul 19 05:25 UTC 2001

New to this place, computer in general actually, just saying hello, I am a
big fan of the Lord of the rings and Dune series, along with old classics such
as the Illiad and Antigone/Oedipus.  Any suggestions on recent books what to
read?
lelande
response 162 of 207: Mark Unseen   Nov 15 19:38 UTC 2001

sure.
you seem to like long books, so check out 'the dollmaker' by harriette arnow.
bear with me. it's set in kentucky, and then detroit, which may not be as
snugly unfamiliar for you as arrakis or middle earth. but if you read it, then
let me know how it is, then i can know whether or not to keep reading it.
deal?
kummini
response 163 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 12 17:48 UTC 2001

Hello. I am new to this discussion forum. I .
lelande
response 164 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 13 10:25 UTC 2001

'the dollmaker' is pretty good, so far. densely detailed, but not baroque.
occy
response 165 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 18 09:12 UTC 2001

anyone here like reading agatha christie?
slynne
response 166 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 18 18:34 UTC 2001

I always used to. I havent read any in a long time though. 
gelinas
response 167 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 18 19:59 UTC 2001

ditto
karpant
response 168 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 26 01:24 UTC 2001

Hi everybody!
Have any of you ever read Harry Potter and do you find them suitable for
College analysis?

//Daniel
i
response 169 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 26 03:47 UTC 2001

College analysis in what context?  They aren't Great Literature; they are
either great or unusual and good children's books; they've gained a cult-
like following and blown the tops off the sales charts. 
mcnally
response 170 of 207: Mark Unseen   Dec 26 21:15 UTC 2001

  Given some of the material I've seen scrutinized, the "Harry Potter"
  books don't seem especially inappropriate, though that's not a strong
  endorsement of the idea, either.  An analysis of their unprecedented
  popularity might be an interesting read, however, if the author came
  to any particularly insightful conclusions..
orinoco
response 171 of 207: Mark Unseen   Jan 4 17:47 UTC 2002

Well, there's a class we're carrying books for at Shaman Drum that _is_
reading Harry Potter.  I don't remember off top of my head what the classis
on, though.
cpnmonk
response 172 of 207: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 18:48 UTC 2002

Certainly Harry Potter could be interesting if one examined it in contrast
with American popular culture, after all the boarding school concept is not
common in the US as compared to Great Britain

gelinas
response 173 of 207: Mark Unseen   Jan 21 20:32 UTC 2002

So this is the item I was remembering and referenced in agora.  :)
disc8848
response 174 of 207: Mark Unseen   Mar 5 07:39 UTC 2002

did you read some book of luxun-the famouse author of china,his books can
always arraise people's justice emotion,is that right?

bulloc
response 175 of 207: Mark Unseen   May 2 17:36 UTC 2002

Did any of you guys read the book "Freedom at Midnight" by Dominique Lapierre.
I'm searching for a copy of that book. If any of you know about that. Do let
me know.
jester00
response 176 of 207: Mark Unseen   Oct 6 22:56 UTC 2002

you must be kidding...if a college were to analyze a novel within the fantasy
genre i would positively recommend The Lord of the Rings trilogy...Harry
Potter in my personal opinion is a childs story used created to appeal to
elementary students; it's definitely not on a college level of reading....but
that happens to be my thoughts on the matter....
mcnally
response 177 of 207: Mark Unseen   Oct 7 07:10 UTC 2002

  Despite its devoted following, I'm not particularly convinced that
  "The Lord of the Rings" has deep levels of inner meaning that reward
  careful study and close reading.  In other words, while I wouldn't
  consider taking a course which proposed to study Rowling's books,
  I wouldn't take one focused on Tolkien's work either.
jlawler
response 178 of 207: Mark Unseen   Oct 7 12:25 UTC 2002

The language of both is very interesting, though.
Different, of course.  Tolkien was a philologist and
knew lots about language history and his style rings
true (stilted by current standards, but that's what
true sounds like).  Rowling, on the other hand, is a
*very* keen action writer.  She uses an *enormous*
number of participles, for instance.

lelande
response 179 of 207: Mark Unseen   Oct 19 03:07 UTC 2002

i've heard recent positions that Lordo of the Rings is a concoction of
northern european runic mythologies with christianity, particularly
gnosticism.
c.s. lewis didn't feel at ease with the cosmology coming out of Lord of the
Rings... i think his objection was to do with the corrupt creator god of
gnosticism, and also that Middle Earth is a realm whose destiny is in the
hands of its inhabitants, not an overseer.
Tolkien's response--this is all in their correspondence, by the way--is
probably where the notion that Lord of the Rings was an allegory for WWii took
seed. He told Lewis that, given the work and results of the Axis powers, how
much devastation they wreaked and how much of it was the result of failure
by the Allied nations to act quicker, he felt *compelled* to publish his saga.
i
response 180 of 207: Mark Unseen   Oct 19 11:34 UTC 2002

My impression is that LotR is a quite unoriginal story that Tolkien just
assembled (and told very well indeed) from earlier stories that he knew
professionally (as a Prof. of Early English Language & Lit. at Oxford),
and that this was trivially obvious in his social circle.  This is not to
fault Tolkien - retelling an old tale well, to a new audience, is honest
& honorable work for an author or scholar.

I can easily see Lewis not liking the lack of Xianity in LotR.  He sticks
closer to the Xian story and worldview in his books than Stalin's favorite
authors stuck to the Party line in the 1930's.

Tolkien spills a load of words & passion on the LotR/WWII subject in his
forward to some later printings of LotR.  He denies that his story line is
about or influenced by WWII, and pretty much says that LotR would have 
been the same, but published *earlier*, if there'd been no war.  Given the
timing of LotR & "epic struggle between good & evil" nature, i don't think
anyone would need prompting to compare it with WWII.

I don't see anything Gnostic in LotR.  Certainly there's no salvation via
occult knowledge (more likely to get you damned in LotR), no real dualism
(Morgoth & Sauron couldn't dream of challenging the One), and prospects
for salvation through simple moral virtue.
mynxcat
response 181 of 207: Mark Unseen   Oct 21 14:36 UTC 2002

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