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remmers
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response 152 of 257:
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May 14 23:24 UTC 1999 |
Isn't CD ROM access slow compared to a typical hard drive?
Also, these days everybody not only has a hard drive, they have
an eighty bazillion gigabyte hard drive. Plenty of room for the
full OS and plenty more.
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scott
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response 153 of 257:
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May 14 23:26 UTC 1999 |
Info World magazine a couple weeks ago had a columnist mention the Caldera
6.0 release of Linux. Evidentally it had a very friendly graphical install,
and would even set itself up a partition on the same disk as Windows 95 in
a very cooperative matter.
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gull
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response 154 of 257:
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May 15 00:14 UTC 1999 |
Re #152: I think the point is that you could play around a little with
Linux before deciding whether to go through the trouble of repartitioning
your drive.
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darbha
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response 155 of 257:
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May 15 06:23 UTC 1999 |
Well ! Since i think i was the one who started it all, maybbe i should
be a bit concerned about it. I have almost given up the idea of working on
Linux. Fortunately, my brother recently purchased a COMPAR Presario . So i
think i would try it out (this booting from Read only file system is still
a good idea for novices like me probably,who cannot actually say that their
HDD is theirs). But the major problem is that my brother stays in a different
place than i am and both these are 600km apart. So i guess..it is stilla
problem.
BTW, someone said Redhat 6.0 is much easier to install and can even partition
the disk...if that is true i guess m y job is further simplified.
Thank you Rick, Marcus, Daniel, Scott , John and others.
systems guys...Hope they won't take me to task..:):)
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darbha
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response 156 of 257:
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May 15 06:37 UTC 1999 |
Missed a thing about "involuntarily switching companies"...not a bad idea
actually..every one's job is simplified..even the HR'S ..as they are finding
it difficult to maintain a lot of Y2K professionals in herewith out any work
and salary still...some sort of white professionals...much like whit
elephants (Indian Public sector loss making companies).
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russ
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response 157 of 257:
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May 16 00:52 UTC 1999 |
I'm sorry, that last response was a bit confused. Would you care to
re-phrase with an emphasis on simplicity and clarity? Thanks.
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darbha
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response 158 of 257:
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May 16 09:03 UTC 1999 |
Forget it russ if it is not clear. It is for Marcus...sorry anyway.
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jshafer
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response 159 of 257:
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May 19 00:13 UTC 1999 |
Hey, FreeBSD Release 3.2 was released the other day. I should be
getting my CDs in a week or so, so if anyone out there needs to borrow
them let me know... I'm in the southwest corner of Michigan, but plan
to head up to Ann Arbor sometime in the next few weeks...
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mdw
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response 160 of 257:
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May 19 06:33 UTC 1999 |
The problem with involuntarily switching companies is it doesn't look
good on one's resume.
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darbha
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response 161 of 257:
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May 19 11:18 UTC 1999 |
Wish my client had asked me for an on-site assignment in U.S..no non-bootable
floppy drive problems...no pestering people on BBS..no involuntary switching
of companies...hmmmmm..WISH I WAS THERE..
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russ
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response 162 of 257:
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May 19 12:24 UTC 1999 |
We pester people on BBS's here too. We even switch companies
involuntarily, sometimes. It's not paradise.
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raven
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response 163 of 257:
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Oct 21 22:55 UTC 1999 |
I have a somewhat unusual situation. I have a computer with 3 hd windows
on c and Mandrake Linux on e. When I originally installed Linux it
wiped out the master boot record on c Win98 so it wouldn't boot.
Scott helped me fix that by suggesting I do fdisk/mbr from the win98
boot disk which fixed the problem so win98 boots now.
My question is can I install lilo on the e drive so I can set it up as
a dual boot machine? If so how do I do this? I have the Mandrake
6.0 cd-rom (which is esentialy red hat 6.0).
Also Linux won't recogonize my pci (non win modem) which seems to be on
com 5 for some reason, there seems to be no option for setting ttyS4
on kpppd the Kde x windows interface for pppd.
Thanks for any help rendered!
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pfv
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response 164 of 257:
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Oct 22 01:13 UTC 1999 |
As I understand lilo: It still would use the MBR on C:, but if
you have E: set up with a /boot partition, it can reach it fine.
I myself have DOS living on the front half of C, and the rest of C
and all of D are RedHat.. I gave myself a 2M /boot and there seems
to be no problem at all, placing it on C or D. In my case, I stuck
the /boot partition on the C drive with /dos and, /root (or / - I
can't recall).
Now, if we just had a neat way to restore OUR "mbr" after doze got
thru mangling it ;-)
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pfv
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response 165 of 257:
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Oct 22 01:17 UTC 1999 |
Don't use kpppd <shrug>.
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gull
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response 166 of 257:
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Oct 22 05:27 UTC 1999 |
Re #164: Yeah...I wish Linux had a DOS utility to replace a damaged lilo,
but since lilo doesn't understand the filesystem and needs the kernel
location hard-coded in, that's not really practical.
FreeBSD's 'EasyBoot' program (which is really just a partition-selector --
the actual bootstrap program is in the boot block of the FreeBSD partition)
can be installed from a DOS floppy.
FreeBSD recently changed to a new bootstrap program, and I'm not sure if I
like it or not. It's more reminiscent of a SPARC boot ROM than the old
bootstrap was, and is probably a bit more intuitive than the old one. It
has the same functionality; you can still boot any file in the root
filesystem, on the fly. I've had a little trouble getting it to remember my
IRQ settings and such (FreeBSD lets you configure them at boot time), but
that's probably due to my using a 3.2-RELEASE kernel with 3.1-RELEASE rc
scripts. For now I've been fixing it by compiling in the settings I need
when I build the kernel, but I should fix it properly one of these days.
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raven
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response 167 of 257:
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Oct 22 06:52 UTC 1999 |
I'm afraid this doesn't quite answer my question (go slow I'm a newbie to
Linux). How exactly do I put lilo somewhere other than the space occupied by
windozembr? I need windoze for apps like Pagemaker, Homepage, etc, so I can't
just trash it. Botting Linux from a floppy would be fine as well. My
understanding is that the bot image for linux is on my e: drive (maybe hc5).
Is there a file I can configure on my boot floppy to int to this so I don't
have to reinstall Linux? Again thanks for any help rendered. Ignore typos, I'm
too lazy to fix them. :-)
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goose
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response 168 of 257:
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Oct 23 20:04 UTC 1999 |
I need a RedHat 5.2 bootfloppy. Is there a way to make one of these from
DOS/Win95? Actually what I really need is the install floppy, not just the
boot floppy.
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pfv
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response 169 of 257:
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Oct 23 22:45 UTC 1999 |
re: 167..
"Read My Lips.." Lilo lives in the MBR - there is only ONE MBR.
It stores either the 95 bootstrap, or the the lilo bootstrap.
The difference IS, lilo can play any field - win95 is selfish and
self-centered.
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pfv
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response 170 of 257:
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Oct 23 22:53 UTC 1999 |
re 168..
Rawwrite..
ls -al /mnt/cdrom/images
total 4343
dr-xr-xr-x 3 root root 2048 Jan 13 1999 .
dr-xr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 Jan 13 1999 ..
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 235 Jan 13 1999 TRANS.TBL
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root root 2048 Jan 13 1999 boot.catalog
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 1474560 Jan 13 1999 boot.img
dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 2048 Jan 10 1999 oldones
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 1474560 Oct 13 1998 rescue.img
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 1474560 Jan 13 1999 supp.img
ls -al /mnt/cdrom/dosutils
total 411
dr-xr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Nov 3 1998 .
dr-xr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 Jan 13 1999 ..
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 332 Jun 5 1997 README
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 706 Jan 13 1999 TRANS.TBL
dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 2048 Nov 3 1998 autoboot
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 62 Jul 15 1998 autoboot.bat
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 17982 Jun 5 1991 copying
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 172096 Oct 14 1998 fips.exe
dr-xr-xr-x 4 root root 2048 Nov 3 1998 fips15c
dr-xr-xr-x 4 root root 2048 Nov 3 1998 fips20
dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 2048 Nov 3 1998 fipsdocs
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 39910 Jul 28 1996 gzip.exe
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 32208 Aug 22 1996 loadlin.exe
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 87210 Jan 13 1997 lodlin16.tgz
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 14305 Jul 28 1996 rawrite.exe
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 2017 Jul 28 1996 rawrite3.doc
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 9480 Jul 28 1996 rdev.exe
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 13614 Aug 23 1995 restorrb.exe
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raven
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response 171 of 257:
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Oct 24 05:53 UTC 1999 |
re # 169 If this is the case how do I configure lilo so I can dual boot?
I thought you could use a floppy to boot linux as well. This option probably
actually makes sense for me as I want to learn Linux slowly so I can learn
how to set up an apache web server. However my main productivity apps are in
Win98, I wish it were different, I know Micro$oft is evil, however I can't just
throw away all my desktop publishing and web development software on principle
<shrug>. Anyway also please keep it simple i.e. tell me the name of files I
need to edit to configure lilo, the content to place in the files, the
location of the files and where they should be saved to. The only way to
grow the Linux community and overthrow Micr0$oft in my opinion is too
make it easy enough for low level pseudo geeks like myself to install. 1/2
:-) <set micro rant="off> Thanks again for any help rendered.
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pfv
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response 172 of 257:
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Oct 24 06:49 UTC 1999 |
the file is /etc/lilo.conf.
you run lilo to reset it.
here's my /etc/lilo.conf:
boot=/dev/hda
map=/boot/map
install=/boot/boot.b
prompt
timeout=50
verbose=1
compact
image=/boot/bzImage-2.2.12
label=2.2.12
root=/dev/hda7
read-only
image=/boot/bzImage-2.0.36
label=YESppp
root=/dev/hda7
read-only
image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.0.36-0.7
label=NOppp
root=/dev/hda7
read-only
other=/dev/hda1
label=dos
table=/dev/hda
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gull
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response 173 of 257:
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Oct 25 02:28 UTC 1999 |
You can create a Linux boot floppy. I believe putting in a formatted floppy
disk and executing the following command from Linux will do it:
dd if=/boot/vmlinuz of=/dev/fd0
You'll probably have to be root to do this. I haven't done it in a long
time, but I think that should create a very basic boot floppy for you.
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raven
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response 174 of 257:
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Oct 25 06:30 UTC 1999 |
re #173 Ah but you see I can't boot now because I had to replace my win98
mbr, which seems to have trashed lilo. I suppose I could I could disconnect
the ide cables from my win hds and reinstall Linux on this drive?
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pfv
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response 175 of 257:
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Oct 25 13:37 UTC 1999 |
This is why you created that bootdisk, right?
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gull
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response 176 of 257:
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Oct 25 19:44 UTC 1999 |
Re #174: Download the boot/rescue floppies for your distribution, and use
RAWRITE to write them out. That will let you boot your linux installation.
You'll probably still want to make a boot floppy the way I described,
though, because it should boot your system right up without having to go
through all the prompts on the boot/rescue disks.
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