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bru
response 150 of 291: Mark Unseen   Aug 1 13:53 UTC 2002

I thought the railroads still maintained the property even tho they no longer
use it.
jep
response 151 of 291: Mark Unseen   Aug 1 14:47 UTC 2002

The bike trail is very, very nice.  It's terrific to not have to 
contend with cars going by, and most of the trail is through the woods 
so it's great scenery for riding.  As I've mentioned before, it's flat 
so it's easy riding.  I'd like very much to have more trails like that 
in my area.

If it's railroad land, it's probably easily and cheaply available, and 
yes, I'd support getting and using it.  
keesan
response 152 of 291: Mark Unseen   Aug 1 16:00 UTC 2002

In Minnesota the railroad had already sold their land to people after they
destroyed the tracks, and all of it could not be bought back, so the trail
was not quite as nice and straight and level as it could have been.

I would like to keep the train service and also have a bike trail running near
the train tracks so that you could bike places without needing to be near
cars.
jep
response 153 of 291: Mark Unseen   Aug 1 16:11 UTC 2002

Sure, but people have a right to their property, too.  There are not 
enough bicyclists to justify taking people's land for bike paths.

But the bike trail that we used last night is really terrific.

Are there many trails like it in Washtenaw County?  I'd be willing to 
pile the bikes in the car to take my son on other rides.  Does anyone 
know of others in Lenawee County?
slynne
response 154 of 291: Mark Unseen   Aug 1 17:30 UTC 2002

It isnt really all that cheap to get the old railroad land but it is 
worthwhile. See http://www.railtrails.org/

scott
response 155 of 291: Mark Unseen   Aug 2 13:02 UTC 2002

I'd worry about toxic cleanup from all thsoe railroad ties, if I was planning
on using the land for anything besides trails.
jep
response 156 of 291: Mark Unseen   Aug 2 18:47 UTC 2002

re #154: If you search around, there's a link to a list of trails, 
including biking trails.  I found that useful.  
(http://www.traillink.com)

There's information on Proposal 2 and it's benefits for bikers.

I didn't see anything about the cost of old railroad land, though.
keesan
response 157 of 291: Mark Unseen   Aug 3 12:53 UTC 2002

In W. Michigan the bike trail on the tracks was surfaced with a soft gravel
that made it hard to bike, and ran through a very thin strip of trees with
farmland on both sides.  We found the regular rides preferable - plain hard
dirt, few cars, and more to see.  The bike trail was very crowded with very
slow bikers and the dirt roads nearly empty.  I would greatly appreciate a
bike trail starting at Stadium Boulevard in Ann Arbor heading west for two
miles as there is no safe way to get out of town going west.  
omni
response 158 of 291: Mark Unseen   Aug 3 20:28 UTC 2002

   You'd like the U Hills bike trail. Two lanes and paved. It used gto be an
old right of way, before Sylvania and Ottawa Hills outlawed trains. I dont
know how far it goes, but I see lots of people and thier bikes on it all the
time.
gelinas
response 159 of 291: Mark Unseen   Aug 3 23:36 UTC 2002

I've watched a new bike trail being put in along Jackson, from Wagner to High
Lake.  So you've got part of your wish, I think, Sindi.  On Thursday, I saw
workers digging up a path on the south side of Jackson, from where the
construciton is being toward Wagner.  So you may have more of it.  However,
there may still be a bit of trouble getting from, say, Seventh and Huron to
Jackson and Maple.
jep
response 160 of 291: Mark Unseen   Aug 4 01:54 UTC 2002

re #158: It sounds like it's in Toledo.  I know even less about that 
than I do Ann Arbor.  It does sound nice, though.  Does it go anywhere 
interesting?  Where does it start and end?

I rode John over to his mother's house this morning, so I got in about 
a 13 mile ride.  It was a great morning for bike riding.  Much cooler 
than the day we rode the Kiwanis Trail.
johnnie
response 161 of 291: Mark Unseen   Aug 4 09:19 UTC 2002

If I remember correctly (it's been a few years), the Toledo trail runs 
from Sylvania to UofT, and there are a number of access/parking sites 
along the way.  Note also that it requires crossing several busy roads, 
and that the trail is also popular with pedestrians and rollerbladers.
keesan
response 162 of 291: Mark Unseen   Aug 4 19:04 UTC 2002

My definition of a bike trail is not something that runs along a noisy stinky
highway.  I know it is safer to bike on the path parallel to Jackson, but I
think I prefer to risk my life on Liberty or Scio Church instead.  Thanks for
the information anyway.  If we leave before 9 am on a Sunday morning it is
not quite as bad.  There is no problem getting as far as Stadium Blvd on side
streets or even sidewalks.
keesan
response 163 of 291: Mark Unseen   Aug 4 20:49 UTC 2002

Jim just spent a few hours measuring the rim width of all our aluminum wheels
and he has selected the two narrowest (7/8" instead of 1 1/6") rims onto which
to put wheels for my latest bike.  Narrowest wheel on the front (with the
least tread) and something thicker and wider on the back wheel which wears
out faster due to more weight.  He showed me how the tread was gone more on
the back wheel of a matched pair that he had been using.  So he is
recommending that we put unmatched tires on our front and back wheels.

The latest bike made two different sorts of noises depending which of the gear
rings I was on - chain rubbing and a deeper grinding sort of noise.  The cause
turned out to be a bent derailleur which he straightened in the vise.  A
previous gearing problem on another bike was from the derailleur not being
quite vertical.  Jim's bike has a shifter that moves until you attach it to
the cable, and a cable that moves unless attached to the shifter.  They are
all different on the inside.  We have four or five of the two-lever variety
now.  In some you push the top to go up a gear, some you push the bottom to
go up a gear.  Some of them the levers stay where you put them so you can see
what gear you are in, some they all come back to starting point.  Some you
push just a little, mine you have to push about 120 degrees (we had to rotate
the shifter so I could reach it).  There is one double-lever type where you
push on one lever and pull on the other.  Presumbly this is some sort of
improvement over the single lever, which I had no trouble pushing AND
pulling on.  Sales gimmick?

We are setting up as many bikes as possible with these double lever types so
as to avoid the twist grips, which all come with bumpy and uncomfortable grips
that you cannot replace with smooth flattened ones so as to rest your weight
on your hands.  You cannot buy anything but bumpy grips now (new).  

On the more used of the tires that we have the tread is worn down in the
middle but never on the sides.  I doubt anyone who abandoned these bikes ever
rode them much on anything but pavement.  We are choosing tires that do not
have much tread on the sides, which saves weight.  I could bike on grass and
sand just as well with narrower tires.  The knobby ones are more likely to
trap gravel, I think.
keesan
response 164 of 291: Mark Unseen   Aug 5 02:20 UTC 2002

I sorted tubes.  The ones with disintegrating rubber had their valve snipped
off (to be recycled as brass) and will become bungee cords.  We found a 20",
a 24",  a 28" (?) which can also be used as 700 mm.  The 24" is skinny and
Jim showed me how to make it into a thin 26" for a 1.50 inch mountain bike
tire as they have the same inside diameter.  THere are also a pile of 26" x
1 3/4" inch which are for three-speed bikes.  For mountain bikes we have 26"
by various diameters.  For the 1.50 inch tires there is 1.50-1.75 inch tubing.
The tires come in 1.75, 1.85, 1.95, 2.00, 2.05, 2.10, 2.15 (?) and tubes in
1.75-2.00 etc.  So a 26" tube will not fit all 26" tires or even all 26" rims,
and a 24" tube will fit some 26" rims.  We gave the 27" tubes to Jim's
housemate with the racing bike.    Did I miss any sizes?  What do the old
1-speeds take?

Jim spent much of today choosing wheels and tubes for my bike and when I left
was doing the same for his.  Yesterday he worked on my gears but got
distracted redishing the 7/8" rear rim which had rounded nipples that needed
to be fixed.  Some people get obsessive.  I finally biked home alone on a bike
that fits perfectly (tho something is still rubbing in certain gear ranges).
russ
response 165 of 291: Mark Unseen   Aug 5 22:16 UTC 2002

My roof rack only fits one of my two cars.  Unfortunately, I
haven't seen a recumbent which will fit the kind of rack which
mounts on a car's trunk lid (the tubes are far too large to
go in the holders).

Can anyone here recommend a good recumbent/carrier combo which
can be swapped between cars easily?
scott
response 166 of 291: Mark Unseen   Aug 6 00:28 UTC 2002

My recumbent fits nicely on a back wheel / front fork carrier, which I have
in a car-top rack.  I think you're probably screwed for a trunk rack.
keesan
response 167 of 291: Mark Unseen   Aug 6 23:59 UTC 2002

Jim has found a new use for his rear rack - groundhog transportation.  He
brought over his freshly caught one (a yearling, he says) in our friend's
trap, wrapped in a large grey plastic bag, and then placed it in the shade
under a grapevine behind my apartment.  I tried to poke some edible weeds
through the bars, but it just hisses a lot and won't eat them.  24 hours
already without food or water.  Tomorrow it gets a new home.  I offered it
to my landlord but he already has one.  Groundhogs don't seem happy very far
off the ground.  We may offer it Barton Hills for a new home.

This is at least the third animal caught in the trap.  Not counting the cat.
So far we are lucky that the skunk family has not found the bait appealing.
jmsaul
response 168 of 291: Mark Unseen   Aug 7 02:50 UTC 2002

I think it's illegal to release that onto someone else's property without
permission, so be careful in Barton Hills -- it's all private property.
mdw
response 169 of 291: Mark Unseen   Aug 7 05:52 UTC 2002

I think I'd offer the groundhog trail mix -- even if it eats "edible
weeds" in the wild, this may not be its first choice even there.
Trapped, it's probably not in the best state of mind, so it would likely
take something pretty special to take its mind off its predicament.
Fresh water, in a bowl, would also likely be a good idea.  It's not
likely to either eat or drink while it even thinks you're watching -- as
long as you're in sight, it's going to be much more worried that you're
going to eat it or looking for a chance to escape, than in consuming
anything under such conditions.

Probably a park or a national forest would be the best place to release
such a critter.  There are several large and fairly wild parks to the
west & north of A^2.  I paid to have some racoons who were infesting my
chimney deported to Jackson, although I don't think groundhogs are
territorial enough for such a distance to be necessary.
cmcgee
response 170 of 291: Mark Unseen   Aug 7 12:51 UTC 2002

The local critter control companies are now saying that they euthanize
these trapped animals because it is more humane than releaseing them into
another animal's territory.  The intruder is more likely to die from slow
starvation than be able to drive off the incumbent.  

Even parks and national forests are reaching saturation levels for
groundhogs, racoons, and skunks.  
keesan
response 171 of 291: Mark Unseen   Aug 7 13:19 UTC 2002

The groundhog ate the wild amaranth after I left.  I just poked some more in.
I figure if I eat it, it must be edible.  It has water in it.  I don't feel
like opening the trap to put in a bowl of water.  We will find some park for
it today that is not too close to houses, unless some other grexer wants it.

Jim 'fixed' the neighbor's bike with the broken spokes by replacing the wheels
and robbing a few other pieces off our bikes, and ajusting brakes etc.  A nice
quality upright-style ten-speed.  He needs some clips for the cable housings,
or string.
slynne
response 172 of 291: Mark Unseen   Aug 7 13:26 UTC 2002

I would take it but one of my dogs would probably kill it so I am 
probably not the best choice. 
keesan
response 173 of 291: Mark Unseen   Aug 7 21:25 UTC 2002

From rhonda@boaa.com Wed Aug  7 17:19:56 2002
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 15:02:14 -0400 
From: Rhonda Foxworth <rhonda@boaa.com>
To: "'keesan@grex.org'" <keesan@grex.org>
Subject: Bike racks

Just to let you know we now have 2 bike racks installed near the door off
the covered parking area as you suggested.
Thank you for your patience.  Enjoy!
Rhonda Foxworth, Marketing Officer
Bank of Ann Arbor


----
I had emailed the marketing officer after the vice president expressed
supreme disinterest.  I pointed out that it did not do a whole lot for the
bank's image to have bikes locked to the flagpole out front.  The racks
were on order for a long time.

Today we took our groundhog's digital photo, then wrapped it in a grey
plastic bag again, perched on Jim's milk crate on his rear rack, and biked
along the river to Parker Mill.  We photographed it and us again near the
sign to the interpretive trail, where we walked in a distance and over the
river, and opened the cage.  It sat there looking the opposite direction
for a bit, then turned around and scampered off.  On the walk there a
large dog expressed interest but the owner dragged it away.  The
groundhog's nose looked bloodied.  Probably it tried to push its way out.
It had stopped hissing.

On the way back (with Jim's son, with whom we had a nice visit to be
repeated shortly) we saw a bunch of geese and ducks with one white gull,
and then two swans.  Nice day to be out.  My bike is much better than my
old one.  I could bike along the paved level trail in highest gear, and up
the Spring St. hill in middle gear.  I used to have to walk up the hill.
.

russ
response 174 of 291: Mark Unseen   Aug 7 23:53 UTC 2002

I found the rhythm that Scott mentioned.  It's something I'd once
learned, sort of, but my muscles had forgotten it.  Today I tried
moving the crank all the way around with each leg instead of just 
pushing downward, and suddenly it clicked.  Even going up a gear
I was still pushing a lot faster with much less muscle effort,
perhaps due to the lower peak forces.

I made excellent time despite the wind.  This probably means a
leap in average speeds is in the offing.
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