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response 150 of 306: Mark Unseen   Apr 21 17:28 UTC 1998

try a horizontal split screen instead.  i have used that technique with some
success.  i remember having multiple phone sessions ten years ago with eight
or nine screen splits with different conversations in each one.
keesan
response 151 of 306: Mark Unseen   Apr 24 19:10 UTC 1998

Last night, and again today, when attempting to reply to an e-mail, after
about 10 lines everything froze up, no keys worked.  I rebooted and my modem
would not dial.  I turned the computer on and off and it works again.  I had
sent one e-mail before replying to any.  Has this happened to anyone else?
If not, it is related to our switching hardware and software (a later version
of 4DOS as an operating system, and an expanded memory card and shrom
software).  Any ideas how to attack this problem?  It may have something to
do with shelling via the shrom program. I am not shelled now and will check
e-mail replying again and report back if it still does not work.
keesan
response 152 of 306: Mark Unseen   Apr 24 19:14 UTC 1998

Apparently I was not disconnected, which is why rebooting did not work.  
The e-mail worked fine now without the shell program involved.
keesan
response 153 of 306: Mark Unseen   Apr 25 01:37 UTC 1998

I logged in to grex just now without using the shell program and had
the same problem with e-mail freezing up (while I was replying to 
a webmaster froma website using lynx).  This was the second e-mail I
sent, the first worked okay.
Actually, the first three worked okay, and they were all replies.
gibson
response 154 of 306: Mark Unseen   Apr 25 04:08 UTC 1998

I've been told some e's sent me have been bounced back. Is it in the settings
or a glitch?
valerie
response 155 of 306: Mark Unseen   Apr 25 13:43 UTC 1998

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krj
response 156 of 306: Mark Unseen   Apr 30 15:34 UTC 1998

Grex cannot be reached from Michnet.  Party has been dead since about 07:30, 
which is usually a good sign that the net link is down.  But there still 
seem to be some users telnetted in from far away places.  ???
valerie
response 157 of 306: Mark Unseen   Apr 30 15:38 UTC 1998

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krj
response 158 of 306: Mark Unseen   Apr 30 15:59 UTC 1998

For whatever it may be worth, here is a traceroute from Michigan State:

2 serv3 /home/serv2/krj # traceroute grex.cyberspace.org
traceroute to grex.cyberspace.org (204.212.46.130), 30 hops max, 40 byte
packets
 1  cc2-gw-fa41.msu.edu (35.9.2.1)  2 ms  2 ms  2 ms
 2  fdd0-0.msu2.mich.net (35.9.6.3)  8 ms  5 ms  5 ms
 3  fdd0-0.msu2.mich.net (35.9.6.3)  5 ms  8 ms  6 ms
 4  hssi2-0.michnet1.mich.net (198.108.22.101)  8 ms
 um-fddi4-0.ann-arbor.cic.net (192.203.195.3)  6 ms  6 ms 5 
 border1-fa4-0-0-2.arb.qual.net (198.87.18.1)  6 ms  8 ms  6 ms 6 
 blackrose-gw.arb.qual.net (198.87.206.42)  9 ms !H  9 ms !H  8 ms !H
3 serv3 /home/serv2/krj # 

I don't know what "qual.net" is.
jared
response 159 of 306: Mark Unseen   Apr 30 16:22 UTC 1998

re #157 msen comes in via a different path than michnet
re #158 qual.net is what became of cic.net+iagnet.net+cyberdrive.net+
greatplains.net

there was an as seg issue between some hops in the network, i've
stoped the router at hop #6 so it won't go on until it becomes fixed.
krj
response 160 of 306: Mark Unseen   Apr 30 18:38 UTC 1998

Looks like it is fixed now, I am connected via Michnet.
keesan
response 161 of 306: Mark Unseen   May 1 17:54 UTC 1998

I am no longer having any problems with the screen freezing up while 
sending e-mail, and I have not changed anything at this end.
keesan
response 162 of 306: Mark Unseen   May 13 18:21 UTC 1998

Actually, once in a whiile I cannot get past a certain spot in a line
but I can go to the next line and resume typings.
I have noticed that when using MAIL, I can type n to get the next message,
except when I know I have just one more message left, and type n, it tells
me EOF, and I have to do h for a list of headers and then enteer the message
number in order to read it.  Am I doing something wrong or is it mail?
mcnally
response 163 of 306: Mark Unseen   May 13 20:13 UTC 1998

  usually where there's an "n" there's a "p"..
mta
response 164 of 306: Mark Unseen   May 13 21:59 UTC 1998

The getting to a certain point in the line and then having to do a hard 
return to continue typing usually means that you've been forgetting to 
press Return at the end of every line and that you've filled up your 
buffer.  Happens to me all the time.  ;)
tsty
response 165 of 306: Mark Unseen   May 18 20:58 UTC 1998

telnetted in using   grex.org  and had sopme severe weirdness,
including but not limited to... password echo, incomplete prompts
which could be 'completed' pressing the space bar for each 
additional character i wanted to display.
  
grex.cyb    was all that appeared automagically, the rest ofthe
csh prompt came a chaaracter at a time, per space-bar-hit, until  the %
arrived.. then typing got nowhere but several returns later, the command
finally echoed...and failed....
  
killed the connection, reconeected to   cyberspace.org   and things
were fine.   <wtf?>
  
re: previous problem... ok, it's an 80 col world, yippieyippiefsck!
  
the system problem is : why won't grex read&conform to the stty settings?
  
stty -a  give all the correct settings.. adn grex ignores them
magnificently!   
  
tsty
response 166 of 306: Mark Unseen   May 18 21:03 UTC 1998

 ..while i am here.... when and WHY was my .plan file permissions
not only CHANGED. but also assigned to   cfadmg   group?
  
i sure as hello didnt ask for that, either of the two "that's."
  
i
response 167 of 306: Mark Unseen   May 18 22:01 UTC 1998

My impression is that the .plan change happened to quite a few people.
arthurp
response 168 of 306: Mark Unseen   May 19 00:15 UTC 1998

I tried to connect to www.cyberspace.org with my lynx and was unable to
access.  I tried pinging cyberspace.org and it worked, so I used
cyberspace.org in my browser and it worked.  Missing A record?
scg
response 169 of 306: Mark Unseen   May 19 05:59 UTC 1998

Hmm...  All Grex's name servers seem to be responding correctly to queries
for both the grex.org and cyberspace.org domains right now.

TS's problem doesn't look at all DNS related.  The name server is going from
the same zone file for both domains, so they are identical.  I'm guessing it
was some other intermittant problem, and that it working with one hostname
and not the other was coincidental.
janc
response 170 of 306: Mark Unseen   May 19 12:53 UTC 1998

If your .plan is owned by group "cfadmg" then that is because someone
(presumably you) editted it via Backtalk.  Nobody is in group "cfadmg"
except the Backtalk program itself, and Backtalk only lets people edit
files if they have logged in as the owners.  The same thing happens with
your conference participation files.  It is all a bit odd, but has to be
done to be compatible with Picospan.  You are welcome, of course, to
change to permissions/group on your .plan back to anything you like, but
I can't see why you'd want to do so.  If you edit it again with
Backtalk, Backtalk will reset the permissions it needs (it has extremely
limited root access to enable it to get access to participation files
created by Picospan by putting them into the cfadmg group).
carson
response 171 of 306: Mark Unseen   May 19 16:51 UTC 1998

(ah! I'd wondered about the cfadmg group. thanks for the explanation, 
Jan!)
senna
response 172 of 306: Mark Unseen   May 19 23:13 UTC 1998

Was grex rebooted this afternoon?  I haven't seen anything in the MOTD
explaining why it was down.
other
response 173 of 306: Mark Unseen   May 22 21:14 UTC 1998

Ok: !uptime
  5:13pm  up 2 days, 23:36,  57 users,  load average: 81.76, 74.14, 71.93


What's up with that?!!!
scott
response 174 of 306: Mark Unseen   May 23 00:48 UTC 1998

Marcus changed some settings that makes us more resistant to certain
denial-of-service attacks.  What you saw there might have crashed us before.
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