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tsty
response 150 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jul 16 06:21 UTC 1997

ALLL GARBLED on  -3000 ... several times. this current login is the first
time i've been able to get in on -3000 in about 3 days.
  
valerie, did you actually mean that *any*  direct dial phn ## *could*
end up .... 56th in line...????    
scg
response 151 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jul 16 07:43 UTC 1997

Grex has one hunt group.  The last three lines in the hunt group are going
to the terminal server, which works by telnetting people who dial up to it
directly to Grex.
dang
response 152 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jul 16 12:40 UTC 1997

So, if all of the slow modems are in use, but one of the fast ones isn't
(rare) then you would dial into a fast one and get telnetted.
valerie
response 153 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jul 16 14:10 UTC 1997

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rcurl
response 154 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jul 16 19:16 UTC 1997

When my .cflist gets to coop, I get
No new items in environment
Got error 2 (No such file or directory) in xec_stat: couldn't stat
So something is wrong with the restarted coop setup.
valerie
response 155 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jul 16 19:42 UTC 1997

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tsty
response 156 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jul 17 02:43 UTC 1997

re #153 ... yeh, beent here, done that - each time. oh, btw, 
heiroglypichs on -3000 jsut now.  can someone kill that modem?
  

something about supporting the local populace come to mind about now.
  
btw, the #153 suggestins *are* good ones in case someone doesn't know
already.
  
oh, steve, tried the set speed=300 in vi y'day and it was an 'unknownd
command', and the  double line spacing and screwy screen were just the
same as before. (that was the immediately previous -3000 dialin that
did not go to garbage.)
  
now what?
  
  
oh, stty rows 36 was in effect.
valerie
response 157 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jul 17 07:34 UTC 1997

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remmers
response 158 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jul 17 12:10 UTC 1997

Re #153: Actually, recently I've been having trouble with slow
modems sometimes, when I turn on error correction. Frequently,
I'll get a connection such that when Grex sends me some output,
the last one or two characters won't display on my screen until
the next time I provide some input. It appears that characters
are buffered somewhere, and the buffer isn't being flushed when
it should.

I find that when this happens, I can fix the problem by
disconnecting, dumbing down my modem by turning off error
correction and data compression, setting my computer's speed for
talking to the modem to 2400, setting flow control to xon/xoff,
and dialing in again. I know, that's the opposite of what you
say to do, but it works for me.

This doesn't happen every time, but I'd say it happens more
often than not when I dial 761-3000. (No problems with
761-5041.)
tsty
response 159 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jul 18 04:06 UTC 1997

another, different quibble
  
i dianled i on the <ha> high speed line. now, this IS a local
loine and i cant see my tuyping since the word line....
  
something about a 300 baud connection comes to mind.
  
the 'line' in the first line was the last echo until
the 'line' in the 2nd echo, err, line.
  
imnsho, this is not the way to run a railroad.
tpryan
response 160 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jul 18 11:24 UTC 1997

        and here i thought toasty inherited the kittycat keyboard.
valerie
response 161 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jul 20 13:35 UTC 1997

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i
response 162 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jul 20 15:12 UTC 1997

Somehow "groupie-the-terminal-server" has the same sort of happy, childlike
flavor to it as the "the little engine that could".

<i drifts off down the far side of the hill>
omni
response 163 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jul 20 17:48 UTC 1997

 Thank you Valerie.
dang
response 164 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jul 21 00:06 UTC 1997

some line on 3000 was giving lots and lots of junk reminiscent of viewing 7e1
output on a term set for 8n1.  (My term is 8n1)  I used my other line to busy
out that line in 3000, and the next one got me in fine.  There may have been
a dead person logged in there, as the amount of output was much greater than
a login prompt should give.
valerie
response 165 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jul 21 14:47 UTC 1997

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albaugh
response 166 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jul 21 16:32 UTC 1997

Due to mistyping during my attempt to logout of grex via telnet, the following
curious sequence ensued:

$ exit
 
Grex central timekeeping.  At the beep, the time is
12:24PM on Monday, 21 July 1997
 
New to grex?  Type help at the login prompt
 
(ttyrd) grex login: exit\^H^H^H^H
exi's Password:
No such loginid
See http://cyberspace.org/badlogin.html
login: foofoo
foofoo's Password:
Incorrect password


Note the reporting of "no such ID" and "Incorrect password" instead of the
standard "Login incorrect", which is designed to not give anything useful
to a cracker.  I thought this was interesting...

dpc
response 167 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jul 21 20:53 UTC 1997

Is the notice about system problems in the MOTD still accurate?
If not, it might be good to update it.
rlawson
response 168 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jul 21 21:44 UTC 1997

Of course it's accurate... didn't you see those martian hampsters flying
around here? :)
dang
response 169 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jul 22 00:58 UTC 1997

3000 did the strange thing again.  Again, I busied it out and got in fine.
I wonder if it has to do with my terminal program...
kaplan
response 170 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jul 22 01:41 UTC 1997

Re 166: That feature is designed to make it easier for users to figure out
if they are typing the username or password wrong.  If they are sure that they
typed the name right and get the "no such login" message, they know the
account has been removed.  Makes questions asked of staff easier to answer
as a pleasant side effect.  That scheme does not really trade off much
security because anyone wanting a list of who is on grex can pretty easily
get one after creating an account if it knows a few things about UNIX.
davel
response 171 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jul 22 20:37 UTC 1997

Right ... the security aspect of not telling a potential cracker whether he
has a valid account name or not is pretty meaningless on Grex.  But especially
if a user has been gone long enough for the account to be reaped, it's really,
really helpful to know that's the problem.
tpryan
response 172 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jul 22 20:42 UTC 1997

        Dialed in (7614931) and got a countown prompt twice, just now and 
before I got knocked off for some unknown reason while entereing agora.
valerie
response 173 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jul 22 22:32 UTC 1997

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jiffer
response 174 of 364: Mark Unseen   Jul 23 00:45 UTC 1997

Thanks to who ever did the reboot and stuff, its ALOT faster now!  I think
grex was having belches last night...
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