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dpc
response 150 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 23 14:48 UTC 1997

So basically we've got 13000 accounts which have seen some activity
in the past 90 days.  Wow!
        Do we have *any* way of telling how many of these accounts have
been used in the conferencing system?
senna
response 151 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 23 15:51 UTC 1997

UIDs?  
That's a nice total.  Does anyone know what grex's theoretical maximum login
limit it, based on the 8 characters in a login?
valerie
response 152 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 23 16:35 UTC 1997

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rcurl
response 153 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 23 17:31 UTC 1997

So, how many accounts have a .cf*? (Can a count be done automatically?).
arianna
response 154 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 23 17:41 UTC 1997

Um, I just tried that !menumore /a/s/t/steve/reap/immortals -- and it told
me "permission denied."
albaugh
response 155 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 23 19:48 UTC 1997

FYI:  Respond or pass? !fmt /a/s/t/steve/reap/immortal
fmt: /a/s/t/steve/reap/immortal: Permission denied
senna
response 156 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 23 21:34 UTC 1997

and what, precisely, is  UID?  a slot for an individual login?
remmers
response 157 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 24 01:37 UTC 1997

UID means "user identification number." It's the number by which
Unix identifies you internally. 

You can find out what your UID is by looking at your entry in
the password file. One way to do that is to type

        !grep '^senna:' /etc/passwd

(or whatever login id you're interest in, in place of senna).
The UID is the number right after the second colon. Mine is 121.
senna
response 158 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 24 04:59 UTC 1997

can the UID limit be exspanded, or is it hardwired into the system?
tpryan
response 159 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 25 16:18 UTC 1997

        Seems you would need to look for recent activity on those
*.cf files, in case users have themselves started up in agora without
realy using it.
or the other conferences.
mcnally
response 160 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 25 20:02 UTC 1997

re #158:  the UID limit can't be increased without major trouble
(involving, at the least, major modifications to the kernel and
the system libraries and recompiling every program that checks UID
for any reason (which is an awful lot of programs..))  the problem
is that all of the above are now compiled to treat the UID as an
unsigned 16 bit number and programs that check UIDs only allot 16 bits
of space to store the values.  more important than the fact that
it's a lot of work to track down all references and recompile
everything it's not even remotely possible to do without SunOS
source code (which is proprietary.)

If we were to switch to Sun's most recent OS version, Solaris 2.5.1,
we'd have more UID room but nobody'd like the number of other problems
we'd have instead.

tpryan
response 161 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 26 02:33 UTC 1997

        Would it be better to 'compress' the UID numbers by giving
everybody new UID numbers or start to re-assign unused UID's??
srw
response 162 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 26 05:33 UTC 1997

Compressing would be a major hassle that would gain nothing. 

It would be a hassle because the UID is stored in the file system to describe
who own every file. If you changed a person's UID, wyou would have to change
the owner of every file on the system. 

It would gain nothing, because we already re-use old UIDs. We're on our second
pass through the 65000 UIds. We're only reassigning the ones that have
become free. 

We don't assign the lowest available UID, because then the used ones would
bunch up at the beginning. We cycle through them because that way the ones
that we reassign are much less likely to have been freed recently.
valerie
response 163 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 26 14:34 UTC 1997

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valerie
response 164 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 26 14:35 UTC 1997

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senna
response 165 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 27 04:27 UTC 1997

So, in other words grex will never have more than about 60,000 users, barring
an act of God.

Hmm, always wanted to know what groups I was posting to.
valerie
response 166 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 27 18:41 UTC 1997

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dpc
response 167 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 27 21:39 UTC 1997

Thanx for the clue that you have to check people's home directories
for *.cf or .cfdir files.
        I would *love* to do this, especially if that checking could
filter out everyone who has not had any changes in these files for
the past XX days.
        Unfortunately, I am a mere "Babe in Unixland."  What are the
commands that would run these counts automatically?
senna
response 168 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 28 02:17 UTC 1997

I'd be really impressed if we grew that big, since we're essentially a local
system and the local market only has double the available number of UIDs
remmers
response 169 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 28 02:44 UTC 1997

If you look at the geographical distribution of Grex users, I'm
not at all sure that you'd find it to be "essentially a local
system". At any given time, the vast majority of people logged
in appear to be non-local. Has anybody gathered any statistics
on where our users come from?
rcurl
response 170 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 28 05:21 UTC 1997

Most of those we meet in conferences are local,  not that I want it that way.
valerie
response 171 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 28 14:47 UTC 1997

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drew
response 172 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 29 05:23 UTC 1997

Jared's POP3 rejection routine is working. (I tested it out with Eudora, which
does *not* ask for another password after the error message comes up.)
tsty
response 173 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 29 10:38 UTC 1997

thankxxx jared.
kaplan
response 174 of 211: Mark Unseen   May 29 12:55 UTC 1997

I tried to

telnet grex.org pop3
Trying 152.160.30.1 ...
telnet: connect: Connection refused

Has the fake POP server been killed?
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