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carson
response 150 of 163: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 04:29 UTC 2000

(ok.  it had something to do with speaking inappropriately.  FTR, all sides
said Mark was classy in apologizing, and seem to suggest he was merely a
victim of youthful indiscretion.)

(agora26.  start with item 102, work your way back.)

(you're welcome, again.)  ;)
jerryr
response 151 of 163: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 13:23 UTC 2000

gee, thanx carson.  my very own question responder person. i'm underwhelmed.
carson
response 152 of 163: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 16:35 UTC 2000

(glad to be of service!)
twinkie
response 153 of 163: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 20:42 UTC 2000

re: 144 -- That's unfortunate in and of itself. As a matter of fact, I am not
interested in stirring up anything. I am interested in understanding how Grex
operates, because it is (apparently) vastly different from M-Net.

So, anyone treating my contributions to the discussion as nothing more than
merely stirring up shit, is not only missing the point, but missing the
opportunity to explain things to new users, and old users who never thought
to ask before.

carson
response 154 of 163: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 21:43 UTC 2000

(Kevin's feeling insecure at the moment.  let's all give him a group hug.)
scott
response 155 of 163: Mark Unseen   Sep 29 22:55 UTC 2000

(Actually, it sounds like he might be trying to shed his M-Net affectation
and become normal.  It's possible, and actually doesn't take that long)
jerryr
response 156 of 163: Mark Unseen   Sep 30 00:43 UTC 2000

heh. normal. heh.
albaugh
response 157 of 163: Mark Unseen   Sep 30 14:15 UTC 2000

Vive le difference!
twinkie
response 158 of 163: Mark Unseen   Sep 30 19:30 UTC 2000

re: 155 -- Perhaps if you'd drop the notion that all M-Netters are unwashed
heathens, it'd be easier to determine what is "normal" and what isn't.

For the record, I still think you probably enjoy granola more than the average
person who lives outside of Ann Arbor ;-)

scott
response 159 of 163: Mark Unseen   Sep 30 21:07 UTC 2000

Of course I know that not all M-Netters are unwashed heathen, but that's why
I used the word "affectation" to describe acting like the worst example of
the stereortype.

And for the record, I not only enjoy granola, I even bake my own.  :)
mcnally
response 160 of 163: Mark Unseen   Sep 30 21:16 UTC 2000

  I actually paid to see heathens last night (however, although I did not
  examine them closely, they appeared to be recently washed..)

  What was surprising to me was the eerily familiar "Ann Arbor" look of the
  rest of the paying audience..

  (the "heathens" in question were the Scandinavian folk band Hedningarna,
  whose name is reputedly translatable as "Heathens")
janc
response 161 of 163: Mark Unseen   Oct 1 06:52 UTC 2000

I think Marcus did a good job of explaining why we don't have an
"acceptable use policy."  It's also true that we've never felt any very
compelling need.  There really haven't been all that many people
demanding an AUP.

M-Net does have one.  See http://www.arbornet.org/rules_a.html

There are different lists of things not to do on Grex scattered around
here and there.  For example, if you created your account with the
web-newuser, you saw this page, which has quite a few rules on it: 
http://www.cyberspace.org/nu/welcome.html .  I don't think it would do
any great harm to post a more complete list someplace.  Trying to make
it absolutely complete, formal and binding would run into kinds of
problems Marcus talks about.  But if you keep it somewhat loose ("a list
of some things not to do on Grex") it might be constructive.

So I kind of agree to Marcus up to a point.  Over-formalizing these
things gets into all sorts of problems that Marcus describes.  But
informal things (like the Grex staff notes on privacy) are still useful.

anderyn
response 162 of 163: Mark Unseen   Oct 1 17:36 UTC 2000

mcnally, so what did you think of hedningarna?! (and they told me it did mean
heathens when i got autographs after the sunday show in detroit)
rcurl
response 163 of 163: Mark Unseen   Oct 2 21:59 UTC 2000

No policy is every "complete, formal and binding" forever (or even,
necessarily, for a week.)  The reason for *adopting* a policy by board
vote is that it doesn't change arbitrarily and capriciously, but it is
always just as easily changed as it was to adopt.

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