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jazz
response 15 of 67: Mark Unseen   Apr 12 15:28 UTC 2000

        Jan, may I humbly suggest the AmigaDOS colour scheme, which was
comprised of the two colours that clash the most in most colour harmony
schemes, orange and blue ... ? :)
hhsrat
response 16 of 67: Mark Unseen   Apr 12 21:49 UTC 2000

Orange and Blue isn't that bad, espicially if you use a dark blue.  It 
actually looks kind nifty on some sports jerseys.

The 2 ugliest colours you can have on a jersey (and probably your 
monitor too) are Orange and Brown.
rcurl
response 17 of 67: Mark Unseen   Apr 12 22:51 UTC 2000

Fall colors? Sounds good to me.
hhsrat
response 18 of 67: Mark Unseen   Apr 13 00:31 UTC 2000

You have never seen the Away jerseys for the WMU hockey team, have you?
rcurl
response 19 of 67: Mark Unseen   Apr 13 01:49 UTC 2000

Nope. But must not be Fall colors.
gypsi
response 20 of 67: Mark Unseen   Apr 13 04:46 UTC 2000

WMU's colors are ghastly...gold and brown...yuck.
senna
response 21 of 67: Mark Unseen   Apr 13 04:57 UTC 2000

Ah, but the Cleveland Browns look pretty good.  Orange and blue, being 
on opposite sides of the wheel, match well together.  However, it makes 
for a lousy screen scheme.  

I like the pistachio pistachio colors :)  However, I've been using 
picospan more lately.
gypsi
response 22 of 67: Mark Unseen   Apr 13 05:02 UTC 2000

I hate orange and blue together.  Yuck.  
otaking
response 23 of 67: Mark Unseen   Apr 13 13:34 UTC 2000

I hate purple and bright yellow together. Ick!
hhsrat
response 24 of 67: Mark Unseen   Apr 16 19:16 UTC 2000

Orange and Blue together I can stand.  Syracuse's jerseys aren't that 
incredibly ugly.

WMU's colours and BG's colours are terrible.  Whoever designed their 
uniforms should be shot.
ric
response 25 of 67: Mark Unseen   Apr 16 19:23 UTC 2000

Western Michigan ?  Yeah, the colors of shit and piss didn't do much for me
while I was there..
senna
response 26 of 67: Mark Unseen   Apr 17 03:50 UTC 2000

Florida's uniforms are great, and used to be even better.  I don't know about
their hockey uniforms, but Bowling Green's football uniforms (logically, they
are orange) aren't that bad.
mooncat
response 27 of 67: Mark Unseen   Apr 25 13:43 UTC 2000

How does a fairwitness set colors in a conf?
janc
response 28 of 67: Mark Unseen   Apr 25 21:41 UTC 2000

If you visit the conference with Backtalk, you'll find a red button
on the conference home page that leads to a control panel for setting
conference options.  Color setting is on there.
janc
response 29 of 67: Mark Unseen   Apr 25 21:46 UTC 2000

I installed a new version of Backtalk on Grex.  This is a release full
of little features and bug fixes.

New stuff in 1.0.1:

  Welcome Page:
  - Looks a bit better to lynx users.

  Entrance Page:
  - Restored yellow background.
  - There is a "Summarize Active Items" button on the home page that
    brings up a summary of how many new items there are in each of
    your hot list conferences.  If you want this to come up everytime
    you enter backtalk, there is an option you can set to do so (note
    that if your hotlist is long, this is likely to make the entrance
    page come up rather slow).

  Edit Hot List Page:
  - List of conferences was broken, is now fixed.

  Conference Home Page:
  - If you know the item number(s) you want to read, you can type them
    into a box on the conference home page.
  - There is a button to list participants in the conference.  Like the
    Picospan participants command, this is hopelessly slow.  So much so
    that the button probably should go away on Grex.
  - Conference names are now capitalized by default.
  - Fixed a bug with "resign" that nobody ever noticed was there.

  Item List Page:
  - Formatting cleaned up.
  - You can now do a "read unseen" to see new and unseen items.
  - There is now a "mark seen" button.  You can also mark all responses
    entered before a certain date as 'seen' (handy if you lost a
    participation file and know when you were in the conference last).
  - Fixed a Y2K bug in "read since yesterday" code.

  Read Page:
  - The conference name at the top of the page is clickable to return
    to the confhome page.

  Invisible Stuff:
  - Interfaces (like pistachio and vanilla) can now be distributed
    separately from the core Backtalk system more easily.
  - Better compatibility with Yapp.
  - Improved portability to an ever-widening variety of strange Unixes.
mooncat
response 30 of 67: Mark Unseen   Apr 25 22:38 UTC 2000

Ohhh... Okay. :)
remmers
response 31 of 67: Mark Unseen   Apr 25 23:52 UTC 2000

Nice changes, Jan.  Thanks.

(Feature request:  In the item list page, I'd like an option to
list just the items with new responses, like what "browse new"
does for you in Picospan.)
omni
response 32 of 67: Mark Unseen   Apr 26 04:24 UTC 2000

  Thanks, Jan.
jep
response 33 of 67: Mark Unseen   Apr 26 20:03 UTC 2000

I keep getting freaked out when I join a conference in Backtalk, and see 
the following:

Agora has 125 items: 0 brand new, 11 with new responses.

I keep reading the "125" as "new responses" or "new items".
mooncat
response 34 of 67: Mark Unseen   Apr 26 22:27 UTC 2000

John- it must be a Perry thing, I keep doing that too.
janc
response 35 of 67: Mark Unseen   Apr 27 03:38 UTC 2000

It seems pretty unambiguous to me.  Is there are a way to format that
message that would seem less alarming to you?
mdw
response 36 of 67: Mark Unseen   Apr 27 05:14 UTC 2000

I know that I thought long & hard about the
        55 newresponse items and 52 brandnew items
        First item 1, last 176
message before I put it into PicoSpan.  Confer did something different;
I think it may have listed out each item with new responses, perhaps
something like:
        New response items:
           1   2   3  20  35  72 123
        New items: 241-245
I didn't like that display, because if you haven't been in a conference
in a while, you get a very scary list of items with new responses, and I
never found having a simple list of item #'s all that useful.  I think I
was at least somewhat tempted to leave the "First item X,last Y" part
off entirely, but I did want to say something if there weren't any new
items, and I also wanted the output from "display conference" to be
similar and show the same information.  Using the words "first" and
"last" was deliberate - I wanted to use the same words that could be
used in item ranges, "read first" or "read last".
anithap
response 37 of 67: Mark Unseen   Apr 27 12:00 UTC 2000

Hi
jep
response 38 of 67: Mark Unseen   Apr 27 16:18 UTC 2000

I think it's just a matter of getting used to it.  Maybe something like:

Agora has 0 brand new items, 11 with new responses, 125 total responses.

I also think #36 sounds like an interesting option to make available.  
How about letting people configure what they want to see, Jan?  Would 
that be difficult?
russ
response 39 of 67: Mark Unseen   May 11 00:23 UTC 2000

IWLTA that the part of the conference login message which reads
"This conference has been restarted, join <confname> for the old
version" will become obsolete after a while.  Such messages should
probably include a hint at the actual conference version number
(e.g. agora17) for ease of reference in the not-so-far future.
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