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jp2
response 145 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 21:25 UTC 2001

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md
response 146 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 21:36 UTC 2001

Yeah, and *everybody* remembers that you're an asshole.  Is that fair?
krj
response 147 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 22:01 UTC 2001

Gosh, we should just put jp2 on the board by acclamation.  Why 
bother with the election?  
jp2
response 148 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 22:02 UTC 2001

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cmcgee
response 149 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 22:15 UTC 2001

I don't need a serious argument against your candidacy.  All I need is the
opportunity to vote for an adequate number of other candidates to fill the
board seats with people I admire.  
krj
response 150 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 22:15 UTC 2001

Yeah, Arbornet put you on the board because it ran out of other 
volunteers.
krj
response 151 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 22:16 UTC 2001

(Colleen slipped in, argh)
tfbjr
response 152 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 25 23:22 UTC 2001

Jamie...

You say you are trying to win.  How exactly are you trying?  Believe it or
not, I gave you the benefit of the doubt.  I just stayed quiet until I had
formed my opinion.  Trying to win an election includes winning people over.

One word.

Failure.
jp2
response 153 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 00:18 UTC 2001

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krj
response 154 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 00:31 UTC 2001

OK, a key issue is the Grexian founding tradition of governing by 
consensus.  Mr. Candidate, please explain how you fit into that 
tradition.   
jp2
response 155 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 00:47 UTC 2001

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md
response 156 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 01:03 UTC 2001

achieved
divisive
advantageous
jp2
response 157 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 01:20 UTC 2001

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keesan
response 158 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 01:36 UTC 2001

Perhaps the board could add one additional (non-voting ) position, named
something like fool, or clown, for which Jamie could run.  He is certainly
doing a good job of entertaining people.
jp2
response 159 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 01:43 UTC 2001

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scott
response 160 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 01:44 UTC 2001

Re 157:  "amendment".

I don't think Jamie "shouldn't be elected".  I think he's got the right to
run, but I'll predict he won't win.
aruba
response 161 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 03:59 UTC 2001

I think the only serious arguments against jp2's candidacy are that he
needs to become a member before the election (which can and will be taken
care of easily, I'm sure) and that he won't be able to attend board
meetings in person.  Otherwise, I can't see why anyone would object to him
being a candidate. 

It's a separate question whether there are serious arguments for not
electing him.  Are those what you were asking for in #145, Jamie?
jp2
response 162 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 04:01 UTC 2001

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md
response 163 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 11:25 UTC 2001

Yeah, amendment.

The spelling issues are the least of it.  Does it matter that the 
candidate's a so-so writer?  I would say no.  It's true that confusion 
of language always indicates confusion of thought, but, you know, what 
the hey.  Kevin Nicholls (twinkie) complains that Jamie affects 
Britishisms like "harbour" and "colour" to make himself sound less 
subliterate.  Easy trick but, apart from Kevin, who cares?  Jamie is 
just mediocre, nothing more.  Now, if we had a *professionally* 
pretentious writer running for election, like Timmy Shores (leland), I 
might consider voting for him.
brighn
response 164 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 13:11 UTC 2001

I've been accused of taking pretension to high heights, but I'm not running.
;} Actually, the preferred words appear to be "condescending" and "pompous."

One possible benefit of Jamie running for Board: People joining Grex just to
vote against him.
danr
response 165 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 13:14 UTC 2001

I guess Jamie's just ignoring me, but he's said several times he wants 
to make Grex managmenet "more nimble," and despite several requests, 
has failed to reveal his program for doing this. The biggest argument 
against jp2's candidacy is that he's abrasive, and Grex isn't about 
being abrasive. Having been a board member, I just don't see him 
functioning well on the board.
jp2
response 166 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 14:47 UTC 2001

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janc
response 167 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 15:10 UTC 2001

I'd be interested in knowing why the board needs to be more nimble.  Some of
the board members could benefit from exercise, but I can't recall any
situation where the board's lack of nimbleness was a problem.
jp2
response 168 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 15:16 UTC 2001

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other
response 169 of 335: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 15:29 UTC 2001

Grex's established procedures for board meeting and decision making are 
what they are, in my opinion, because of the belief that the quality of 
the discussion and the decisions made will be sufficiently better to 
justify the additional effort.  In my opinion, the status quo is what it 
is because the founders knew it would be better for Grex this way.

I do not believe this has changed, and I believe the 'candidacy' of jp2 
is a perfect example of why the status quo is simply superior to other 
options at this time.
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