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mynxcat
response 144 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 15:25 UTC 2003

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scott
response 145 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 15:41 UTC 2003

Ah, the ending was great - nice reverse on the usual Disney ending.  And the
message is "who cares about beauty, anyway?".
mynxcat
response 146 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 15:43 UTC 2003

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slynne
response 147 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 16:02 UTC 2003

Really? That isnt what I got at all. Shrek's feelings about the 
Princess didnt change at all when her appearance changed and therefore 
the big ugly ogre got the beautiful princess (since he thought she was 
beautiful both before and after her transformation)
scott
response 148 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 16:31 UTC 2003

Right!
mynxcat
response 149 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 16:40 UTC 2003

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scott
response 150 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 16:58 UTC 2003

My impression was that her only problem was fearing that Shrek would discover
she was actually an ogre.
rcurl
response 151 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 19:35 UTC 2003

It seemed to me that the movie reinforced the stereotypes of "ugly". That
a rare individual didn't care isn't particularly encouraging. 
drew
response 152 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 19:43 UTC 2003

It seems to me that an ogre ought to find ogre form more "beautiful".
tod
response 153 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 19:45 UTC 2003

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lynne
response 154 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 19:52 UTC 2003

For some unknown reason, I wound up watching Scarlett:  the miniseries 
last night.  Most of the acting was pretty crappy, and the southern accents
were totally unbelievable, but the actress who played Scarlett actually did
a really good job of portraying her maturation.  On the whole:  definitely
not worth my 6+ hours.  Can I have a refund, please?
tod
response 155 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 20:47 UTC 2003

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mynxcat
response 156 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 21:41 UTC 2003

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anderyn
response 157 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 16 23:58 UTC 2003

In "Shrek", the book, the point was that the ogre wouldnt' have wanted her
if she were the beautiful princess -- he thought that she was ugly then. So
him falling in love with her when he thought she was ugly was seeing past the
skin and her being changed into the form he thought was gorgeous was kind of
his "reward" -- he got the girl he loved in a form he thought was sexy and
cool. 
gull
response 158 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 02:50 UTC 2003

I didn't think she was *that* ugly in either form, frankly.  But not as
cute as the dragon, perhaps. ;)
russ
response 159 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 02:59 UTC 2003

Re #141:  IIRC, "Dr. Strangelove" was released *before* Fail Safe,
and pretty much destroyed its earnings potential.

Fail Safe is still an excellent and scary film.  Thought-provoking.
mynxcat
response 160 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 03:38 UTC 2003

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fitz
response 161 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 10:16 UTC 2003

In Shrek, why did Robin Hood have a french accent?
remmers
response 162 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 12:26 UTC 2003

Re #159:  I've read that Columbia Pictures, which released both
"Dr Strangelove" and "Fail-Safe", agreed to low-key publicity for
the latter in order to placate Stanley Kubrick, who was upset
about the similarity of the plots.

"Dr Strangelove" is based on the novel "Red Alert" by Peter
George.  It is a straight, non-humorous cold war thriller.
Kubrick and his screenwriter, Terry Southern, decided on a
comedic approach while preparing for filming -- it wasn't
their original plan.

The books "Red Alert" and "Fail-Safe" are so similar in plot
that there was a lawsuit over it, I've heard.

I agree that "Fail-Safe" is an excellent film that still packs
a punch.  Did anybody see the live black-and-white TV production
of a couple of years ago?  Interesting, but not as good as the
film.  Directed by Stephen Frears ("The Grifters", "High Fidelity")
with a cast that included Richard Dreyfuss (fairly ineffective in
the Henry Fonda role), Brian Dennehy, George Clooney, and Harvey
Keitel.
anderyn
response 163 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 15:17 UTC 2003

William Steig (I think!) is the author. It was a children's book long before
it was a movie, "Shrek", that is. 
gizlnort
response 164 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 15:55 UTC 2003

Just for a modern take on the same ideas as Fail Safe and Dr. Strangelove,
try your hand at _Deterence_, a mdae for TV movie/low budget film that
actually was pretty good on modern nuclear war.  Side question, can anyone
tell me the author for Fail Safe or Red Alert?
remmers
response 165 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 22:52 UTC 2003

Fail-Safe:  Eugene Burdick and Harvey Wheeler
Red Alert:  Peter George
mxyzptlk
response 166 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 22:58 UTC 2003

Deterrence is a good movie...  I have to wonder how long it is before
someone taps Rod Lurie to do something like The West Wing.
lynne
response 167 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 17 23:46 UTC 2003

Sapna:  It was on the Love channel (giggle giggle smirk) and it wouldn't let
me scroll very far forward to see if there was a rerun of it.  I didn't much
like the book either, but I was really frustrated with the ending to Gone
with the Wind.  
mynxcat
response 168 of 327: Mark Unseen   Jan 18 03:04 UTC 2003

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