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jmsaul
response 143 of 248: Mark Unseen   Nov 18 02:05 UTC 2002

They can't?  What do you do in the perennial hypothetical case where someone
posts a credit card number?
other
response 144 of 248: Mark Unseen   Nov 18 02:08 UTC 2002

uh huh
jmsaul
response 145 of 248: Mark Unseen   Nov 18 02:32 UTC 2002

Heh...
janc
response 146 of 248: Mark Unseen   Nov 18 04:56 UTC 2002

In that perennial hypothetical case, cfadm or root edits the response. 
Incidentally, they can edit the pseudonym too.
davel
response 147 of 248: Mark Unseen   Nov 18 13:12 UTC 2002



Re 142: I guess we must be, John.  Why else is this continuing?



jhudson
response 148 of 248: Mark Unseen   Nov 19 18:18 UTC 2002

lol
fuzzman
response 149 of 248: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 17:28 UTC 2002

wierdness:

fuzzman@cyberspace.org's password: 
Warning: Remote host failed or refused to allocate a pseudo tty.
Warning: no access to tty (Bad file number).
Thus no job control in this shell.
mesg: I/O stream 2 improperly redirected
stty: TCGETS: Operation not supported on socket
stty: standard input: Operation not supported on socket
TERM: Undefined variable.
stty: standard input: Operation not supported on socket
mesg: I/O stream 2 improperly redirected

Is someone hogging ttys?
janc
response 150 of 248: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 17:49 UTC 2002

Grex rations ttys to limit usage.  If you telnet in and we are out of
ttys, you get put in a queue.  If you ssh in ... yucky things happen.
fuzzman
response 151 of 248: Mark Unseen   Nov 20 17:51 UTC 2002

Ah, that makes much sense.  Thanks for the information.
gull
response 152 of 248: Mark Unseen   Nov 21 18:56 UTC 2002

Yup, if you get the 'failed or refused to allocate a pseudo tty' message,
it's best to kill that ssh session and either telnet in, or try again later. 
It's rare to have a long queue these days, so often trying ssh again a few
minutes later works fine.
remmers
response 153 of 248: Mark Unseen   Nov 21 23:08 UTC 2002

Or even just a few seconds later.
fuzzman
response 154 of 248: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 14:50 UTC 2002

I asked because it was consistent for about 20 minutes.
albaugh
response 155 of 248: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 16:10 UTC 2002

grex timing out mail connection attempts from other systems continues to be
a problem (refusing / unable for > 1 hour).  In this case, I'm talking about
Ford, not some spam-factory.  This is now what I consider chronic; is this
because grex now receives so much e-mail that it can't handle all foreign
systems?  If so, I posit that to be due to so much spam.  Does staff have any
time to investigate why mail connections are being refused this way?
keesan
response 156 of 248: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 16:23 UTC 2002

I only had problems with two particular senders, whose systems timed out or
something.  THe rest of my mail gets through all the time.
dang
response 157 of 248: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 22:06 UTC 2002

Grex was breifly timing out for me, but that went away, and hasn't come
back, so I assume it was high load.  I get mail from Grex all the time,
and regularly, as I'm staff, so there doesn't seem to be a general
cronic mail delivery problem on Grex.  I'm not a mail guru, so I can't
help beyond that.
russ
response 158 of 248: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 01:14 UTC 2002

I am also in the situation of getting no e-mail for most of a day
or even close to two days, then getting a huge backlog.

Seriously, folks.  If we no longer have the capacity to be the
mail drop for a big chunk of the third world, let's cut them off.
They are not part of the Grex community and are threatening our
very existence.  Let them use Hotmail or Yahoo.
gelinas
response 159 of 248: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 01:36 UTC 2002

Don't assume that mail is all they use.  I know that I see a fair number in
party.

I'm not privileged to look at the logs, so I can't attempt to do any
diagnosis of a potential problem.
other
response 160 of 248: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 02:12 UTC 2002

I got my first porn spam at board@cyberspace.org.

I would assume that's a big chunk of the problem.
jmsaul
response 161 of 248: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 02:22 UTC 2002

That you're using the board address to sign up for porn sites?  Could be...
other
response 162 of 248: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 02:37 UTC 2002

Well, that's what they tell me, but I just can't recall...
russ
response 163 of 248: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 05:32 UTC 2002

Re #159:  I was thinking of something more like putting new users
into a "no mail" (also no ftp, thus getting rid of donkey) group,
and giving people full privs if they become members, have an
identifiable USA presence or make a special request.  Existing
users would not be affected.

Getting rid of donkey might be worth the whole effort.
scott
response 164 of 248: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 14:01 UTC 2002

We disable accounts which do automated stuff anyway, so it's probably not as
big a problem as it appears.  The big edonkey problem was just excessive
clueless bots trying to connect, which somebody could do maliciously anyway.
mcnally
response 165 of 248: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 14:33 UTC 2002

  re #159:  

  > giving people full privs if they .. have an identifiable USA presence..

  I can't decide whether or not I'd like to hear your rationalization for
  this proposal or not..
mynxcat
response 166 of 248: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 16:13 UTC 2002

This response has been erased.

gull
response 167 of 248: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 17:15 UTC 2002

Re #157: It's not mail *from* Grex that's the problem, it's mail *to* Grex.

The problem has eased up for me a bit, lately, though I do still
occasionally see mailing list mail arrive out of order (which indicates
a batch of it didn't go through on the first attempt.)
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