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bruin
response 141 of 199: Mark Unseen   Nov 12 01:58 UTC 2001

RE #138 Michigan beat Minnesota 31 to 10.
krj
response 142 of 199: Mark Unseen   Nov 16 04:33 UTC 2001

Detroit TV note: channel 4 sportscaster Bernie Smilovitz just announced that
"Sports Final Edition" will be resurrected for the 11:30 pm Sunday time 
slot.  Fred McLeod will be the host.  The station showed some of their 
Lloyd Carr interview which will be the main attraction this Sunday.
albaugh
response 143 of 199: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 10:00 UTC 2001

Now that it's Thanksgiving, let us all be thankful for the pitiful Wisconsin
"special" teams...  ;-)
senna
response 144 of 199: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 13:34 UTC 2001

Amen.
lk
response 145 of 199: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 17:32 UTC 2001

...and the strong and sure leg of Hayden Epstein.

Not just for making the FG, but for kicking the ball out of the end-zone
on the ensuing kickoff (which should also have been done in the final
minute of the MSU game, instead of the squib kick which was returned to
mid-field and set up, well, let's no go there.)
krj
response 146 of 199: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 18:18 UTC 2001

I found an interesting web page on the question:  Why do the Detroit 
Lions play on Thanksgiving every year?  
http://www.sportsjones.com/sport&society7.htm
http://www.profootballhof.com/history/1930s/thanksgiving.cfm
tpryan
response 147 of 199: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 22:44 UTC 2001

        "...it's become a tradition.".
krj
response 148 of 199: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 22:48 UTC 2001

... and WDIV blew off the second half of the Dallas/Denver game
so they could show "Ed", which they had previously pre-empted.  
Boo hiss!
krj
response 149 of 199: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 23:18 UTC 2001

Um, oops, wrong channel.  Silly me, NBC hasn't had any football for 
years...
senna
response 150 of 199: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 01:27 UTC 2001

Some crazy games today.  Amazingly, I missed the end of both, but they were
fantastic.
tpryan
response 151 of 199: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 14:07 UTC 2001

        So, how did the Lions snatch defeat from the jaws of 
victory this time?
senna
response 152 of 199: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 15:50 UTC 2001

They fell a two-point conversion short of a 16 point comeback to tie the game.
krj
response 153 of 199: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 16:07 UTC 2001

So on the basis of the late rally one might think the Lions might 
switch to McMahon as the primary quarterback; before that rally I 
thought he looked terribly ineffectual, though, with lots of 
incomplete passes.
albaugh
response 154 of 199: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 19:57 UTC 2001

0-10 - by far the worst record of my lifetime.  OTOH, it's not like they're
getting blow out every game, so it seems hard to call them a terrible team.
But the record speaks for itself...
senna
response 155 of 199: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 21:54 UTC 2001

I doubt they'll switch.  He was put in, in part, because the team appeare to
bed doing nothing.  He got some seriously good playing time.  Charlie is still
playing good football, and I think it would be better to keep McMahon at least
partially under wraps for a while, so his development isn't disrupted.

It's football weekend, and we're already having some fun.  Colorado has jumped
out to a 35-3 lead over #1 Nebraska early in the second quarter.  Nebraska
just scored to close it to 35-10.  This is a shocking breakdown of Nebraska's
defense, thought to be among the best in the country.

Tomorrow is the BIG game.
gelinas
response 156 of 199: Mark Unseen   Nov 25 04:28 UTC 2001

Penn State won!?
gelinas
response 157 of 199: Mark Unseen   Nov 25 06:10 UTC 2001

In the "General Announcements" item, Richard commented on reactions to
Michigan's 8-3 season.  I'm ready to see _Navarre_ run out of town, but
not Carr.

He's thrown too many interceptions and uncatchable passes this season,
especially the last few games.  Gonzales falling asleep at the switch
didn't help.
senna
response 158 of 199: Mark Unseen   Nov 25 17:51 UTC 2001

Don't pay attention to richard, Joe, he's just trolling for reactions. 
Navarre is young, and he's not playing with a lot of confidence, but the loss
was far from his fault.  He shouldn't have been the starter this year, but
the starter is in the Yankees organization.  Who's to blame for that?  Well...
the game, which doesn't allow players to be paid.  Drew was too good, so what
are you going to do?

Ohio State needs to take games occasionally, or this isn't a rivalry.  They
hadn't won in Ann Arbor since '87.  It was bound to happen eventually.
gelinas
response 159 of 199: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 02:25 UTC 2001

Yeah, I know they had to win.  And having already lost two this season, losing
this one doesn't hurt as much as it would were it the only loss of the season.

And I knew this was supposed to be Henson's year as starter, with Navarre
using it for experience before he became the starter.  He can still learn,
I guess.
senna
response 160 of 199: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 03:32 UTC 2001

He can and he will.  Jim Cnockeart made an excellent point earlier--Brian
Griese was pretty lousy as a sophomore, too.  Tom Brady didn't really get good
until his senior year, but he was better than sophomore Drew Henson, who
combined talent with youthful inexperience and couldn't get the job done. 
Remember his interceptions against MSU in '99?

gelinas
response 161 of 199: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 03:41 UTC 2001

Yeah, I remember the struggles of the sophomore quarterbacks.  So it's not
fair to expect more of this one. ;)
lk
response 162 of 199: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 07:14 UTC 2001

There's only one thing I've ever heard Joe Paterno say that I liked (and,
in fairness to the coach, I don't hear much he has to say).  "If you don't
get better from week to week, you get worse."  I haven't see Navarre get
better.  I would not bet on him being the starter next year, though he is
the likely candidate given the importance of experience at the position.

I don't think Gonzo fell asleep. My initial impression was that he was
yelling signals to the receiver when the ball was snapped. I think it was
snapped early and was also high.

Carr has a pretty good record against top-10 and top-25 teams.  Maybe the
problem is that we need to play better teams.... (:
albaugh
response 163 of 199: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 15:18 UTC 2001

The Wolves only had 1 significant win out of their 8 this season - the blowout
of Illinois.  The comeback win at Iowa was important, but that is where the
warning signs began.  Probably the most disappointing thing has been the case
of the dropsies that Walker has contracted.

Losing to Ohio State, when the OSU team is superior and earns/deserves its
victory, that is to be expected (and it was during the *real* rivalry, Bo and
Woody).  But to hand the game to OSU is what is hard to swallow.  OSU had *1*
drive that they deserved what they earned - all other scores were a benefit
of Michigan turnovers.  If Walker doesn't drop the TD pass, and Epstein
doesn't miss the ensuing chippie, UM still could have won, which should tell
you how little OSU "deserved" to win the game.

We can only hope that the team gets its stuff together for the Citrus Bowl,
so as to avoid an 8-4 season, from the "bad old days" of Gary M.
senna
response 164 of 199: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 21:24 UTC 2001

Tennessee likely awaits.
tfbjr
response 165 of 199: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 22:55 UTC 2001

While I'm not a fanatic, I can't help but feel somewhat bummed after
Nebraska's loss on Friday.  I suspected we would have trouble with Colorado,
but I did not expect THAT much trouble.

Oklahoma's loss was even more bizarre...
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