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25 new of 332 responses total.
gelinas
response 141 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 28 05:33 UTC 2001

Since acceptances and declinations can be withdrawn (that is, nominees can
change their minds) at any time up to the beginning of balloting, assumptions
of their intentions are invalid.

We can afford patience.
janc
response 142 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 28 05:39 UTC 2001

I disagree.  Making a decision on whether or not to run based on who else is
on the ballot sounds perfectly sensible to me.  I care a lot about Grex, and
if there were any kind of real shortage of good candidates willing to serve
on the board, I'd be there in a minute.  But board meetings are fairly hard
for me to get to on a reliable basis these days, and there are lots of other
ways I can contribute to Grex.  So much as I enjoy the ego-boo of being on
board, I'm not going to do it unless either there are not enough other good
candidates, or if there is some issue that I want to get involved in for which
being a board member is useful (getting 501c3 done was one such issue a few
years back).
janc
response 143 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 28 05:40 UTC 2001

Joe slipped in.  I disagree with Richard, not Joe.
janc
response 144 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 28 05:44 UTC 2001

I think it is:

ACCEPTED
 jp2
 bhelliom
 mary
 mdw
 orinoco
 kaplan
 flem
 other   

NOMINATED
 cmcgee
 krj
 danr          
 rcurl
 tpryan
 lelande
 pthomas

DECLINED
 i
 dpc
 russ
 eeyore
 janc
 davel
 scott
 arabella
 jep
 gelinas
gelinas
response 145 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 28 05:51 UTC 2001

(#124 was an acceptance.  E'en if pessimistic. ;)
janc
response 146 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 28 06:17 UTC 2001

Oops.  I though someone accepted from my last round of nominations, but missed
it on skiming.  Sorry

ACCEPTED
 jp2
 bhelliom
 mary
 mdw
 orinoco
 kaplan
 flem
 other   
 gelinas

NOMINATED
 cmcgee
 krj
 danr          
 rcurl
 tpryan
 lelande
 pthomas

DECLINED
 i
 dpc
 russ
 eeyore
 janc
 davel
 scott
 arabella
 jep

Nine candidates for 4 seats is a surfeit of riches, and will be a darned hard
choice.
gelinas
response 147 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 28 06:19 UTC 2001

No apology necessary, Jan. :)
remmers
response 148 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 28 13:11 UTC 2001

Re #146:  Thanks for compiling the list, Jan.  Indeed, there will
be hard choices.
cmcgee
response 149 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 28 13:14 UTC 2001

Thanks, Jan

I am going to decline, again.  To add another BoD to my schedule would
mean resigning from another one.  Like Jan, I would gladly serve if I
thought it was critical to Grex's survival, or if at some future time I'm
no longer on three other boards.  

For this election however, I'm sure we can elect four really good people
from the selection above.  
remmers
response 150 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 28 14:03 UTC 2001

Oldtimers probably know this but newcomers might not:  The vote
program will display a "statement" by each candidate who wishes
to have one.  It's limited in size to a standard 24x80 terminal
screen.  To make one, create a world-readable file with a
certain name in your home directory; the vote program will
find it and display it on request.  I'll email detailed
instructions to all candidates in a day or two.

Voting starts on Saturday, December 1.  Any nominee who hasn't
yet accepted and who wishes to appear on the ballot must post an
acceptance no later than Friday, November 30.
jp2
response 151 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 28 15:06 UTC 2001

This response has been erased.

other
response 152 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 28 16:04 UTC 2001

I think candidates ought to consider making the statements
web-accessible. I've symlinked mine to ~other/statement.
aruba
response 153 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 28 16:36 UTC 2001

A note to candidates: those who don't put their statements up until late in
the voting period often suffer at the polls.
jep
response 154 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 28 17:21 UTC 2001

If I were a voter, I would not want to see any names on the ballot who 
do not want to serve on the Board if they win.

If I were an eligible potential candidate, and found my name on the 
ballot when I had not consented to have it there, I would be terribly 
annoyed.  If I found I'd actually been elected without consenting to 
run, I'd be annoyed and very embarrassed.

Under no circumstances do I, in my opinion, have any obligation to Grex 
to announce what I am not doing.  On the other hand, if I wanted to 
run, I would have an obligation to do what's necessary to have my name 
placed on the ballot.

So, for these reasons, I think Grex should stick with it's current 
system and not place anyone on the ballot without their consent.
jep
response 155 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 28 17:24 UTC 2001

I see an excellent pool of candidates for this election.  While I'm not 
an eligible voter, I do appreciate the willingness to contribute on the 
part of all of those who are running.  Thank you and good luck to each 
of you.
jp2
response 156 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 28 17:25 UTC 2001

This response has been erased.

krj
response 157 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 28 18:27 UTC 2001

I will stop dithering and decline my nomination.
flem
response 158 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 28 18:34 UTC 2001

I'd forgotten about the statements.  I bet the one from 2 years ago is still
cluttering my ~.  
remmers
response 159 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 28 19:02 UTC 2001

Re #152:  Candidates' statements are web-accessible from the web
version of the vote program.

I'll review this item to make sure the acceptance list is accurate,
before I open the polls.  I agree that a self-nomination counts as
an acceptance.

Bear in mind that to appear on the ballot, you *must* be a paid-up
member by the time the polls open.
janc
response 160 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 28 20:12 UTC 2001

I can't find any nomination of pthomas in this item.  All I see is jp2's
seconding of pthomas's nomination.  I included pthomas on the nominated list
because a second of a non-existant nomination is as good as a nomination, if
you ask me, but there is only one response from pthomas in this item (response
114 where he accuses Jamie of being an ACLU member) and it doesn't sound like
a self-nomination to me.
jp2
response 161 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 28 21:47 UTC 2001

This response has been erased.

pthomas
response 162 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 29 00:05 UTC 2001

I accept my nomination.
orinoco
response 163 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 29 03:50 UTC 2001

I think I'm going to have to withdraw my candidacy.  I've barely had time to
log on to grex of late, much less pay attention to the issues.  
carson
response 164 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 29 04:31 UTC 2001

You have issues?
aruba
response 165 of 332: Mark Unseen   Nov 29 05:32 UTC 2001

That's too bad, Dan.  I sure wanted to vote for you.
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