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remmers
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response 141 of 365:
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Oct 28 14:56 UTC 2000 |
Dunno, but it takes a heap o' living to make a house a home.
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otter
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response 142 of 365:
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Oct 29 18:11 UTC 2000 |
How many heaps in a shitload?
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swa
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response 143 of 365:
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Oct 30 02:04 UTC 2000 |
Re 122: Thanks Russ.
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jazz
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response 144 of 365:
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Oct 30 17:22 UTC 2000 |
Is that a metric shitload or an English shitload?
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keesan
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response 145 of 365:
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Oct 30 22:27 UTC 2000 |
I am designing a small database to keep track of companies I work for. Would
the following maximum lengths be adequate:
company name - 20 characters
street address - 25
city name - 15
email address - 33
Do you know of any longer names or addresses than this?
A sample database of this type had 26, 25, 22 (no email, old database).
What city names are 22 characters long including spaces and periods?
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mcnally
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response 146 of 365:
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Oct 30 22:44 UTC 2000 |
Will you be dealing with anyone in Wales or New Zealand?
Both have some impressively long place names, though the longest
names have fallen into disuse.
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keesan
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response 147 of 365:
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Oct 30 22:51 UTC 2000 |
US only, and I can abbreviate suite, street, and the like. I have names
rangging from NCY through Tulsa, Schenectady, to Palm Beach Gardens. Lots
of cities with two words in the name and several with three. Looks like I
will need 18 for city name, at least, unless I abbreviate Gdns. But I cannot
abbreviate e-mail addresses, so what is the longest one permitted by whoever
makes up the rules? The companies like to cram in their whole name.
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scg
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response 148 of 365:
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Oct 31 01:08 UTC 2000 |
I doubt you'll see any e-mail addresses as long as the "rules" allow, but
there are some impressively long ones. 33 characters is probably a bit short.
15 characters per city will be too short. In addition to Palm Beach Gardens,
you'll have problems with South San Francisco, South Lake Tahoe, and probably
many other cities I'm failing to think of that don't start with South.
The longest street name in my neighborhood is Martin Luther King Jr. Way.
Addresses on it have mostly four digits. Many of the addresses probably also
include apartment numbers. Your 25 character street address limit would be
exceeded.
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swa
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response 149 of 365:
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Oct 31 05:19 UTC 2000 |
Re 144: A friend-of-a-friend-of-a-friend once became enamored of the
phrase "a metric fucking shitload" to describe a large quantity of
anything, and I swear there was a discussion once in which it actually
made sense in context, if only I could remember it...
My street address in 1999-2000 was "941 Calle Mejia, Apt. 406." With
spaces that's exactly 25 characters, so if I'd lived in Apt. 1106 it
wouldn't have fit (unless you abbreviated "Calle", which most non-
Spanish-speakers don't.) Better to err on the long side, I would
think...
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jazz
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response 150 of 365:
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Oct 31 14:46 UTC 2000 |
I've seen some awfully convoluted addresses before. When designing
a db, it's always best to allow considerable leeway in the field length.
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tpryan
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response 151 of 365:
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Oct 31 17:33 UTC 2000 |
30 for name and address fields, 42 for e-mail. Use the 30 for
city, state and postal-code, as you want to format it, if you are not
going to need to separate state and postal-code as separate feilds.
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scott
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response 152 of 365:
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Oct 31 22:33 UTC 2000 |
Two "address" fields is prety standard. Essential for "123 Any Street",
"Suite 500".
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cmcgee
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response 153 of 365:
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Oct 31 23:28 UTC 2000 |
Actually, there are quite a few Martin Luther King, Jr. Boulevard s too.
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flem
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response 154 of 365:
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Nov 1 19:08 UTC 2000 |
Unless you're planning to have (literally) billions of entries in your tables,
you're almost certainly better off making your address fields much bigger than
you ever expect to need them. You're far more likely to run into hassles and
errors dealing with field size limitations than tables that are too large.
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keesan
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response 155 of 365:
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Nov 1 21:47 UTC 2000 |
The reason to limit the sizes is that my little database program displays all
the information in a record on one line (you can scroll left and right) and
prints it all on two lines. I would like to limit it to two lines. Since
I only contact these companies by phone, fax, or e-mail, an abbreviated
address will work (S. for South, #1 for Apt. 1). What I plan to use the
program for, apart from looking up phone numbers and e-mail addresses, is to
figure out who called when I get a message from 'Edna' (there are two Ednas
in two different states), and list out all the companies in a particular state
in case I ever happen to be travelling near there. The e-mail addresses do
have to be accurate. Tim, where did you get your number for email length?
Martin Luther King - MLK.
I can make the field sizes larger later, if needed, then go through with a
little text editor and add spaces to all the entries, but I wanted to start
with a close approximation. By separating city name, state, and zip code,
I save the two spaces that would otherwise be needed to separate them, and
I can also do a sort on state name (in case I am curious which states send
me more work). There will be only about 60 records.
The fields I plan on using are: Company name, 5 letter acronym (used in
another database where I keep track of income), complete address, phone and
fax, email, FedEx number, and names of people working there. I have 16 spaces
left for listing people if I leave 33 for email and 15 for city and 25 from
street address.
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snowth
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response 156 of 365:
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Nov 1 22:32 UTC 2000 |
I have a random short question for people:
Recently I've been heating up a lot of water for tea in the microwave.
Sometimes it gets really hot, but isn't boiling when I take it out of the
microwave, but then when I put the tea bag in, it starts bubbling all over
the place. Why?
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jiffer
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response 157 of 365:
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Nov 1 22:46 UTC 2000 |
It has to do with how a microwave heats up the water. Technically it is
boiling, ask a physicist
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brighn
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response 158 of 365:
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Nov 1 22:47 UTC 2000 |
There's a term for that, and I forget... It could happen on the stove, too,
but is much less likely to. It was on some TV science show I saw it explained,
maybe TV Food's Good Eats (with Alton Brown... that guy kicks ass, a cooking
show where every recipe's scientific properties are explained).
Anyway, back to the question. I'm sure I'll get the details wrong, but it has
to do with surface tension. In order to break the surface tension, it's not
enough that the water be at 212F... it can be somewhat more than that. Water
won't vaporize at the boiling point without help. Usually, imperfections in
the cooking surface are enough to create eddies of cold and hot water, but
when water is heated in the microwave, it needs more rocks to eddy around in
order to avoid "superheating" (that's the term), because it heats up so much
faster. If you use a ceramic mug or cup, odds are that the imperfections in
the internal surface aren't nearly enough to cause bubbles to form.
Superheating usually only takes place in clear, fairly pure liquids (esp.
water), and is more likely to occur when the heated liquid isn't being
jostled (creating eddies, breaking the surface tension, etc.).
Ways to avoid it: Use a mug with a graded internal surface, put some
micro-wave safe utensil in the mug as it's heating (gives someplace for the
bubbles to gather), make sure the microwave has a rotating tray, bump the
microwave before opening it.
The danger (this was used in that notorious McDonald's suit): Superheated
water is obviously hotter than expected, and suddenly breaking the tension
by picking up the mug could result in a tiny explosion, as all those really
hot molecules that have been trying to vaporize do so all at once. That
doesn't really happen very often, though (or you'd be hearing this explanation
more often ;} ).
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brighn
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response 159 of 365:
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Nov 1 22:48 UTC 2000 |
(And whether it's boiling or not depends on your definition of "boiling" --
it's above the "boiling point," and beyond that, I'll set semantics aside.
;} )
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brighn
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response 160 of 365:
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Nov 1 22:58 UTC 2000 |
Hey, my explanation wasn't far off. Here's a more professional answer:
There is a story circulating by email about a 26 year old man who heated a
cup of water in a microwave oven and had it "explode in his face" when he took
it out. He suffered serious burns as a result. Is this possible and, if so,
how did it happen? -- JJ, Kirksville, Missouri
Yes, this sort of accident can happen. The water superheated and then boiled
violently when disturbed. Here's how it works:
Water can always evaporate into dry air, but it normally only does so at its
surface. When water molecules leave the surface faster than they return, the
quantity of liquid water gradually diminishes. That's ordinary evaporation.
However, when water is heated to its boiling temperature, it can begin to
evaporate not only from its surface, but also from within. If a steam bubble
forms inside the hot water, water molecules can evaporate into that steam
bubble and make it grow larger and larger. The high temperature is necessary
because the pressure inside the bubble depends on the temperature. At low
temperature, the bubble pressure is too low and the surrounding atmospheric
pressure smashes it. That's why boiling only occurs at or above water's
boiling temperature. Since pressure is involved, boiling temperature depends
on air pressure. At high altitude, boiling occurs at lower temperature than
at sea level.
But pay attention to the phrase "If a steam bubble forms" in the previous
paragraph. That's easier said than done. Forming the initial steam bubble into
which water molecules can evaporate is a process known as "nucleation." It
requires a good number of water molecules to spontaneously and simultaneously
break apart from one another to form a gas. That's a rare event. Even in a
cup of water at several degrees above the boiling temperature, you might have
to wait minutes before such a rare event occurred. In reality, it usually
occurs at a defect in the cup or an impurity in the water--anything that can
help those first few water molecules form the seed bubble. When you heat water
on the stove, the hot spots at the bottom of the pot or defects in the pot
bottom usually assist nucleation so that boiling occurs soon after the boiling
temperature is reached. But when you heat pure water in a smooth cup using
a microwave oven, there is virtually nothing present to help nucleation occur.
The water can heat right past its boiling temperature without boiling. The
water then superheats--its temperature rising above its boiling temperature.
When you shake the cup or sprinkle something like sugar or salt into it, you
initiate nucleation and the water then boils violently.
Fortunately, serious microwave superheating accidents are unusual--this is
the first injury I've ever heard about. You could minimize the chance of this
sort of problem by deliberately nucleating boiling before removing the cup
from the microwave. Inserting a metal spoon or almost any food into the water
should trigger boiling in superheated water. A pinch of sugar will do the
trick, something I've often noticed when I heat tea in the microwave.
http://rabi.phys.virginia.edu/HTW//microwave_ovens.html
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mdw
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response 161 of 365:
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Nov 1 23:39 UTC 2000 |
Clearly, a problem with Superheated water. You may be able to fix that
by using dirty cups, or putting a boiling stone into the water (the idea
is to give the steam bubbles a nucleus around which to form.)
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rcurl
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response 162 of 365:
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Nov 2 00:47 UTC 2000 |
You shouldn't make tea with superheated water anyway. It is too hot.
Tea should be made with water below the boiling point. Air is driven
out of the water when heated to too close to boiling, which makes the
tea not taste quite as good.
However in regard to boiling and superheat, etc, the explanation by
brighn is essentially correct.
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gelinas
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response 163 of 365:
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Nov 2 03:23 UTC 2000 |
Sindi, domain names can be 256 characters long. Add another 256 for
the "local part", plus the @ sigh, and 513 for an e-mail address is
the limit. That's almost 8 80-column lines, though, and probably not
very common.
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brighn
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response 164 of 365:
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Nov 2 16:05 UTC 2000 |
Personally, I like the strategy of putting a little sugar in the water ...
tea made with boiling water tends not to be as sweet (in my experience). It's
definitely blander than tea made with close-to-boiling (say, 190F) water.
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keesan
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response 165 of 365:
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Nov 2 18:55 UTC 2000 |
I would expect people make a lot of errors typing in longer email addresses.
I will stick with 33 for the time being, thanks.
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