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Grex > Oldcoop > #179: Grex Board of Director's Meeting Minutes - May 21, 2004 | |
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twenex
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response 14 of 45:
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May 25 12:29 UTC 2004 |
Re: #13: "We could hire specialized
attorneys and still get conflicting advice[.]"
Doesn't one hire attorneys *in order* to get conflicting advice?
8D
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slynne
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response 15 of 45:
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May 25 15:06 UTC 2004 |
I completely agree with resp:13.
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keesan
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response 16 of 45:
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May 25 16:06 UTC 2004 |
It does take a few minutes to run newuser, which might discourage vandals if
they have to keep opening new accounts to be annoying.
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albaugh
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response 17 of 45:
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May 25 18:30 UTC 2004 |
Re: #7/#9: I knew the answer before I asked. :-) Obviously I understand
that humans can get discouraged, especially when they feel unappreciated.
I was wondering if by "atmosphere" it was meant "there are ingrates over-
criticizing staff" etc. or that there was so much time cleaning up after
vandals there was no time to do the interesting stuff, i.e. Next Grex?
If it's the former, then all I can say is "try to ignore them and do what ya
gotta do" - at least some of us aren't worried about / make an issue of
administrivia re: punks...
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aruba
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response 18 of 45:
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May 25 20:13 UTC 2004 |
Re #11: Richard - you're right that we shouldn't be making a determination
as to what's a "copyright violation" and what's not. But we should still
have our own policies/reactions when something is clearly in violation, as
was the case with realugly's post of russ's poem.
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cmcgee
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response 19 of 45:
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May 26 00:57 UTC 2004 |
With the request from the author to remove it, not a determination of
copyright violation in a vacuum.
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richard
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response 20 of 45:
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May 26 03:05 UTC 2004 |
query...can newuser be modified so it locks out people that are running it
from specific ip addresses? that might at least discourage users whose logins
have been taken away from creating new ones, because they'd have to re-route
the way they connect to grex (changing their ip) before running newuser
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remmers
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response 21 of 45:
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May 26 14:18 UTC 2004 |
That's an approach to consider, but it has the downside that other users
might want to connect from the same ip.
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remmers
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response 22 of 45:
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May 26 14:29 UTC 2004 |
Re #8: I suspect that speed differences between Picospan and Fronttalk
will be far less noticeable on NextGrex than on CurrentGrex.
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tod
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response 23 of 45:
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May 26 18:00 UTC 2004 |
re #20
Why are you chasing the rain? Why not just change your perspective?
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twenex
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response 24 of 45:
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May 26 19:14 UTC 2004 |
Chasing the rain is a nice expression.
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cyklone
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response 25 of 45:
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May 26 21:14 UTC 2004 |
"With the request from the author to remove it . . . "
Oh yeah, the Jep Solution. It worked so well in the past!
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glenda
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response 26 of 45:
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May 26 22:16 UTC 2004 |
Not the jep solution. This was a copyrighted work, copied in total, and
claimed to be the work of the person posting it. The actual author complained
about it and asked that it be removed. Totally different situation. Even
you should be able to see that.
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cyklone
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response 27 of 45:
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May 26 23:05 UTC 2004 |
Perhaps I was too subtle for you. When you adopt a system whereby a person
can simply assert "I am the copyright owner, you must remove that" without
independent investigation, then you are essentially giving power to anyone
bold enough to make that claim, regardless of whether or not they in fact have
a valid copyright. Even a pinhead should be able to see that.
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twenex
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response 28 of 45:
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May 26 23:16 UTC 2004 |
Whilst cyklone's diatribe is rather aggressive, I would agree with a more
measured version thereof.
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glenda
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response 29 of 45:
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May 26 23:17 UTC 2004 |
We did do independant investigation before removing it. The incident and what
was done about it and why were discussed in the item where the posting
occurred. Before screaming about improper actions by staff go look at it.
It is item 110 in Agora.
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jp2
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response 30 of 45:
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May 26 23:27 UTC 2004 |
This response has been erased.
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glenda
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response 31 of 45:
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May 26 23:30 UTC 2004 |
Your work was fully cited as to author and where it came from. No one claimed
it to be their's and not yours.
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jp2
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response 32 of 45:
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May 26 23:37 UTC 2004 |
This response has been erased.
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glenda
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response 33 of 45:
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May 27 00:06 UTC 2004 |
Wrong, you are not a second class user. I is felt that what you are
complaining about falls under fair use. From the DMCA: "`(c) OTHER RIGHTS,
ETC., NOT AFFECTED- (1) Nothing in this section shall affect rights, remedies,
limitations, or defenses to copyright infringement, including fair use, under
this title."
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other
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response 34 of 45:
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May 27 01:54 UTC 2004 |
Jamie, unless you can prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that the
use you decry was not fair use, I respectfully request that you
cease demanding that the barn doors be locked when the horse was
never even there to escape.
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jp2
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response 35 of 45:
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May 27 01:56 UTC 2004 |
This response has been erased.
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jp2
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response 36 of 45:
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May 27 01:57 UTC 2004 |
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cyklone
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response 37 of 45:
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May 27 03:59 UTC 2004 |
Re #29: Before screaming about improper actions you may want to reread what
I wrote, which was about general *principles* (a word many grexers seem
unfamiliar with) and not the specific situation involving Russ.
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krj
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response 38 of 45:
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May 27 16:48 UTC 2004 |
Ho hum.
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