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scholar
response 14 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 22:30 UTC 2006

whoa!

i've only played real life poker ONCE.

it was $5-$10 hold 'em at the great blue heron charity casino near port perry,
on.

durham county, the county which claims to have juristdiction over the
reservation that's home to the casino, explicity bans smoking in all casinos
(i.e., the great blue heron charity casino) within the county, unless it's
in specially enclosed and ventilated rooms.

the gbhcc claims it doesn't have to follow the rule 'cause it's not part of
the county, and it only bans cigar and pipe smoking.

sitting at a table surrounded by smokers for hours isn't very fun for me, even
though i don't have any particular objection to smoking and even do it myself
on occasion!
tod
response 15 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 5 22:50 UTC 2006

re #13
I think its a great law but some of the guys at the VFW are mortified by it.
They realize that its a lawsuit waiting to happen if the law is broken but
at the same time its completely changed the culture of the canteen which used
to be at least 50% smokey.  (After I became Adjutant and Club House Committee
member, I get a smoke eater and smokefree area designated.)
mcnally
response 16 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 00:00 UTC 2006

 re #14:  Ontario is allowing charity casino poker play again?  I used to
 cross the border to play in Windsor several times a month during the early
 90s but at some point I thought they eliminated the charity casinos.
scholar
response 17 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 01:14 UTC 2006

Um!

As far as I know, all casinos in Ontario are now allowed to run poker games.

I'm not sure what you mean by charity casinos.  There used to be temporary
casinos that would open for a few weeks and then close in Toronto.  Maybe they
had the same thing in Windsor?!  Could that POSSIBLY be what you're talking
about?!

Anyway, uh, if not, maybe the following list of casinos that have poker and
the numer of tables they have will help you:

Brantford Casino, 14
Casino Niagra, 12
Casino Rama, 11
Casino Sault Ste. Marie, 3
Casino Windsor, 10,
Fallsview Casino Resort, 8
Great Blue Heron Casino, 8
Thunder Bay Casino, 4
Point Edward Charity Casino, 8

That's a total of 78 tables!

If they were all full and being used to play hold 'em, there could be 858
legal public poker players at once!

I also here there are a bunch of 'underground' games in Toronto, but I don't
know how to find those.  :(
scholar
response 18 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 01:20 UTC 2006

whoa!

http://www.homepokergames.com/canada.php seems to have a bunch of games
that are only 'home' games in name!

unfortunetly, i can't seem to find anything near me, except some guy who watns
to play no limit hold 'em.  :(
mcnally
response 19 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 6 04:25 UTC 2006

 re #17:  Ahh..  Yes, the "charity casinos" I'm talking about were
 allowed under a provincial law that permitted non-profit organizations
 (e.g. peewee hockey leagues, curling clubs, ladies' garden clubs,
 etc..) to apply for a permit to operate a casino-like operation
 temporarily for fundraising purposes.

 I think the original intent was that clubs would operate these
 fundraisers themselves but by the time I became aware of them there
 had arisen companies which made money by offering their services
 to non-profits to organize and run such games.  The one in Windsor
 was called the Brentwood/Elmwood Corp.  and though I played a
 number of times in Toronto games I can't recall the name of any
 game operators there.

 The law under which such companies operated only allowed each
 permit holder to operate for a weekend and also required that the
 games couldn't be held in the same venue more often than once per
 month so there was a phone number you'd call to listen to an
 answering machine message explaining where the game was going to
 be held on a given weekend.  In the Windsor operation, which rarely
 had more than two poker tables running (and never more than three,
 plus a couple of blackjack tables) the games usually rotated between
 a space at the Windsor Convention Center, a large banquet room
 upstairs from one of Windsor's many Chinese restaurants (which was
 the best option, as on those weekends you could order good food
 delivered right to the table), the basement of the Masonic lodge,
 and the dining area at the Windsor Curling Club, with a few other
 occasional locations I can no longer remember.

 Back in those days the action in the Windsor games was respectable
 and in the Toronto games it was unbelievable.  If my friends and
 I had a long weekend we'd occasionally make the 5-hour trip to
 Toronto and spend the days checking out the city and the evenings
 playing poker and I don't think we ever regretted making the trip,
 even subtracting the cost of gas and a hotel room from our winnings.

 It was these games that the province shut down, if I recall correctly.
 I don't think they were ever really anticipated by the law's authors
 and there were rumors of corruption and abuse in the permitting
 process, I think Ontario found it easier to just shut the games down
 than to fix the parts of the process that were broken.
gull
response 20 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 02:55 UTC 2006

Re resp:13: Which card room?  I'm curious if it's one of the ones I work
in.

The lack of smoke is nice but I still disagree with the law.  It seems
like if there was a big pent-up demand for non-smoking bars and card
rooms, they'd already exist thanks to market forces.  It's also not very
even-handed, since it doesn't affect tribal casinos.  Also, when I have
lunch I'm tired of my waitress disappearing for long periods to go
outside and smoke. ;)
mcnally
response 21 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 04:40 UTC 2006

 re #20:  Diamond Lil's, in Renton. 

 As far as the smoking ban goes, although I'm glad to be able to
 go out and play cards and not come back reeking of smoke, I'm not
 inclined to force my non-smoking through a law.

naftee
response 22 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 05:31 UTC 2006

re 17
'here' ?! :(
gull
response 23 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 06:43 UTC 2006

Re resp:21: Ah, nope, not one of the ones I work at. 
mcnally
response 24 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 07:45 UTC 2006

Most of my Seattle-area poker playing was either there or at the Muckleshoot.
I tried playing at the Hideaway for a while because the action was good but
the place was just too smoky and disgusting for me.
gull
response 25 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 7 23:10 UTC 2006

The Hideaway has long since closed, anyway.
mcnally
response 26 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 8 03:18 UTC 2006

 Not surprising, considering (a) the surrounding area really wasn't fond
 of the strip of sleazy businesses the Hideaway sat among, and (b) it seemed
 (from my limited experience) like it was pretty poorly run..
gull
response 27 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 8 23:01 UTC 2006

That's a pretty accurate assessment, from what I've heard.
happyboy
response 28 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 9 20:43 UTC 2006

all casinos have a trailertrash vibe to me, no matter
how dressed up they are...so i think they should be filled
with harry-dean-stanton-on-oxygen-while-smoking lookalikes


awesome!
tod
response 29 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 9 20:57 UTC 2006

While some would argue that Freddy's Casino in Renton and Auburn are the best
show in town..I like the filthier dives like Cascade Bowl & Casino, Diamond
Lil's on Rainier Ave..or ...wait for it.....
Emerald Queen Casino
mcnally
response 30 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 9 21:01 UTC 2006

 I used to play poker at the Muckleshoot fairly regularly and there was
 another regular player there, who I'll just refer to as D.  D. was older
 and had lung problems that required him to use an oxygen tank that fed
 a tube that went up his nose but he nevertheless insisted on playing
 frequently in the smoky card room.

 If you were sitting next to him, every once in a while you might notice
 that he was looking a bit bluer than normal or was spacing out a bit,
 at which point you'd tap him on the shoulder and say "D.  Do you need to
 check your tank?"  He'd check the valve, find out that, sure enough, his
 pressure was running a bit low, and would usually tip one of the chip
 runners in the room $10 to run out to his van to get him a fresh tank.

 It was pretty routine for D., but I found the whole process mildly 
 disturbing.
mcnally
response 31 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 9 21:02 UTC 2006

 re #29:  Freddy's owns Diamond Lil's.
scholar
response 32 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 9 21:03 UTC 2006

hey,  why is mcnally's story deja vuish.  not that i've ever had the story
myself, but that i've seen it somewhere else?!

maybe mcnally wrote it another time.

yeah, that must be it.
tod
response 33 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 9 21:07 UTC 2006

I dunno which disturbs me worse: The guy at the table whose wife is begging
him to come home with whats left of their rent money 
OR
The guy at the table who is turning blue and zongin out cuz his oxygen tank
is running low at the poker table
scholar
response 34 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 9 21:14 UTC 2006

I think the oxygen one is funny.
tod
response 35 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 9 21:29 UTC 2006

<puts voicebox on neck> "Thats not funny, David.  I raise you."
naftee
response 36 of 37: Mark Unseen   Jan 10 04:59 UTC 2006

don't be gamblin' with your son, tod
wilt
response 37 of 37: Mark Unseen   May 16 23:51 UTC 2006

HACKED BY GNAA LOL JEWS DID WTC LOL
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