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Grex > Coop11 > #32: How should we determine how many dialin lines we should have? | |
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response 136 of 154:
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Sep 29 00:10 UTC 2000 |
What does that save us in monthly phone bills?
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aruba
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response 137 of 154:
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Sep 29 03:46 UTC 2000 |
That should save us approximately $135/month.
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carson
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response 138 of 154:
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Sep 29 04:01 UTC 2000 |
(awesome.)
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dpc
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response 139 of 154:
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Oct 11 13:37 UTC 2000 |
Hm. It looks like we could actually get by with 4 phone lines
without inconveniencing anyone too much.
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keesan
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response 140 of 154:
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Nov 13 19:52 UTC 2000 |
I just got a busy number twice in two minutes a few minute ago. Waited two
minutes and go through. This is my first busy number in several months. I
would not mind getting a busy number once or twice a week.
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davel
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response 141 of 154:
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Nov 14 15:26 UTC 2000 |
As long as we're not talking about an hour of redialing that often, yes.
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keesan
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response 142 of 154:
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Nov 16 18:58 UTC 2000 |
How many dialin lines do we have now, and might we drop two more?
Could this be discussed at the board meeting?
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janc
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response 143 of 154:
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Nov 16 19:13 UTC 2000 |
The last cut was so recent that it would be hard to come up with very
significant statistics for the post-cut period. I'd wait 6 months before
re-examining it.
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keesan
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response 144 of 154:
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Nov 16 22:26 UTC 2000 |
I thought the previous statistics showed that we only need 4 lines most of
the time, and we had cut from 11 to 9. I dial in up to 10 times a day, maybe
more, and got a busy line on only one occasion since the lines were cut, which
lasted only two minutes. Around 3-4 pm, an unusually busy time. What is the
usage (in %) for the busiest hour of the day, for each line?
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keesan
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response 145 of 154:
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Nov 17 00:59 UTC 2000 |
Just now (before 8 pm) I had to redial for 30 sec before getting through.
8 pm is the other busy time of the day, I think. I could have waited five
minutes instead. What is the longest other people are willing to wait?
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janc
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response 146 of 154:
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Nov 17 04:44 UTC 2000 |
Based on the last statistics, the board decided to cut only two lines. I
wanted to cut more, but lost out. If we have no new statistics, why should
the board reconsider?
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keesan
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response 147 of 154:
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Nov 17 22:54 UTC 2000 |
Six months of two unnecessary phone lines at $20/line times 2 = $240.
I am asking if anyone analyzed how many minutes a week, or what percentage
of the time between 3-4 and 7-8 pm, the last two lines are in use, and what
the maximum acceptable number of minutes is that people would tolerate getting
a busy signal. I could tolerate 5 minutes, easily, and have never had more
than 30 sec busy signal. This is probably much shorter than people are
waiting on the telnet queue. (How long is the maximum telnet wait?).
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keesan
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response 148 of 154:
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Nov 17 23:08 UTC 2000 |
I just calculated that .124% busy equals 12 minutes/week and .305% busy = 30
minutes/week. These figures were for lines 6 and 7 (before dropping 8 and
9). If these two lines were used only between 3-4 and 7-8 pm, M-F, 12 minutes
in 10 hours for line 7 is about 2 busy minutes each between 3-4 and 7-8 pm.
It was apparently an accident that I got busy signals at both these times.
Or maybe traffic has gone up a bit and the count should be redone. Line 6,
using the old numbers, 30 minutes in 10 hours, would be 3 minutes busy out
of 60 between 3-4 or 7-8. I could easily wait 3 minutes to try again. Is
there someone who could not? Does it make sense to pay $20/month for a line
that is used 12 minutes/week (50 minutes a month for $20 - 40 cents/minute).
Please correct my arithmetic if it is off somewhere.
Is it common to wait 3 minutes or longer in the telnet queue?
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carson
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response 149 of 154:
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Nov 17 23:16 UTC 2000 |
(depends on the time of day. early weekend mornings, yes. other times,
no, not really. YMMV.)
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albaugh
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response 150 of 154:
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Nov 18 08:15 UTC 2000 |
Let's just settle down and let things ride for awhile. It would be
more costly to have to reconnect lines if service becomes available for
locals due to overcutting of lines. There is no rush.
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kaplan
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response 151 of 154:
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Nov 18 14:16 UTC 2000 |
Jan, regarding resp:146, maybe the board made that decision based not
on stats of past usage, but expectation of increased future usage.
Maybe expectations have changed since then.
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keesan
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response 152 of 154:
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Nov 18 22:31 UTC 2000 |
There seems to have been a steady trend of decreased dialin usage. Two years
ago I was sometimes getting busy signals with 13 lines. Now I am almost never
getting busy signals with 9 lines. Has local usage gone up since August?
When did dialin usage last go up instead of down? Does anyone have statistics
for comparing October usage with August usage, or is there some period of the
year when usage is highest? Presumably fall would be higher than September.
I would be happy to recalculate minutes per week for new statistics.
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keesan
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response 153 of 154:
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Nov 22 02:22 UTC 2000 |
Another busy signal at 4:30 pm. I am still curious what the current percent
usage is for the last three lines.
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mooncat
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response 154 of 154:
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Nov 23 04:49 UTC 2000 |
Maybe you should give people time to compile this information.
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