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bhelliom
response 134 of 170: Mark Unseen   Aug 27 14:07 UTC 2002

Well, I'm sure it may have made the burden somewhat easier, or at least 
one can hope.  It's good that you *do* have a supportive environment in 
which to work. 
clees
response 135 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 3 21:01 UTC 2002

Yup.
One of my colleagues recently suffered from a breakdown. She is on sick 
leave now for the time being. As I understand it she is currently 
spooked by skeletons from the past. What kind of past she hasn't hasn't 
revealed yet, but I dread it has to do with over affectionate daddies.
Although I am no therapist I sympathise with her. At least I know what 
she has been through. What complicates the whole thing is that she for 
now refuses to seek professional help. She is scared what it will 
bringto surface. It tried to explain that letting things keep on 
festering doesn't help either. Certainly as she is affected by it now.
To make things worse she has had a burglar in her house.
tod
response 136 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 3 21:15 UTC 2002

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clees
response 137 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 5 09:12 UTC 2002

I got a hint in that direction (but not in so many words) from another 
colleague, who's in closer contact with her than me.
I won't pry.
tod
response 138 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 5 16:13 UTC 2002

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clees
response 139 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 5 22:02 UTC 2002

I did. Also because it helped me so much.
jep
response 140 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 5 23:33 UTC 2002

Today I had my first EMDR session.  EMDR is Eye Movement 
Desensitization and Reprocessing; it's a technique for alleviating bad 
feelings about yourself by "reprocessing" them, thinking them through a 
different way and then feeling better about them.

Though it's called "Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing", my 
therapist does not use anything that requires one to move his eyes.  He 
had me put on speakers and hold onto a vibrating buzzer gizmo (with one 
part in each hand), then go through some of the details of my divorce.  
The divorce is what's got me depressed.  At intervals of a minute or 
so, he'd stop and ask me what I was thinking about, then we'd go on.  
It was pretty intensely emotional for me.  You'll have to forgive me if 
I don't go into details right now.  The idea was to shift some of the 
ideas around some in my brain, or something.  I'm not too familiar with 
the theory, but it's supposed to provide permanent relief from the 
stuff that's being reprocessed.

I'm going to continue doing this at times for a while.  Right now I 
don't have much of an opinion on whether it did any good.  I can say, 
it was a very difficult session in therapy.
tod
response 141 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 5 23:56 UTC 2002

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jep
response 142 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 6 01:41 UTC 2002

I appreciate the kind thought, Todd, but it wasn't huge.  It was just 
difficult.
tod
response 143 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 6 16:43 UTC 2002

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jep
response 144 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 6 18:31 UTC 2002

Well, I appreciate the kind thoughts.  Thank you!

I don't know if I just burned out during yesterday's session in 
therapy, or made some real progress because of the EMDR, but I feel 
enormously better today than I did yesterday.  I have been burning with 
anger for over a week now, but not today.  That's quite a relief.
bhelliom
response 145 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 9 19:54 UTC 2002

Well, about two weeks after the lapse of the Welbutrin due to errors not 
my own, I'm feeling better.  I was secretly hoping that there'd be no 
change in mood and that we could reevaluate it, since Wellbutrin is such 
a mild antidepressant and I also have Celexa.    It's an amazing thing, 
to realize how I had felt/could have felt like without it.  Okay, so 
meds aren't the cure-all, but for now, it's definitely proving 
beneficial.  I'm glad that I actually feel like coming up with things to 
do to get back in shape.  It means to me that I have recovered some 
motivation.  I can't wait to try out my new in-line skates.  
clees
response 146 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 10 06:13 UTC 2002

Take care, girl! (hugs)
bhelliom
response 147 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 11 16:52 UTC 2002

I may have to exchange the blades for a pair a half-size larger, but I 
did venture out and try them yesterday.
lynne
response 148 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 11 19:33 UTC 2002

I've noticed gently varying responses to missing doses of Zoloft.  Sometimes
I'm having a good day and can miss a day without enormous repercussions, but
far more usually I start getting extremely depressed.  Sometimes the 
depression has a relevant and believable cause, sometimes I catch myself
making mountains out of molehills to have something to be depressed about.
It's sort of a nasty cycle.  But there is a very marked effect to missing
doses.  I think next time I see the psychiatrist I'll ask about future plans.
Have other people who are still reading this item ever gone off Zoloft?  Were
there side effects?  What was the trigger that made you decide to stop 
taking it?
slynne
response 149 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 11 21:27 UTC 2002

I was on Zoloft for 6 months once. It really helped me. Interestingly, 
when I stopped taking it, I didnt get depressed again. I had no bad 
side effects from stopping it. In fact, it was nice to finally get rid 
of the weird side effects the drug had. 

lynne
response 150 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 11 21:57 UTC 2002

May I ask what side effects?  I haven't really noticed many.  Did they
phase you out/decrease your dosage, or just stop cold turkey?
orinoco
response 151 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 01:57 UTC 2002

I had a similar experience with Effexor -- a noticeable effect when I started,
but not much by way of "withdrawl symptoms" when I stopped.  I've been told
that's just because it takes a long time to get out of your system, but I
think it was also that I stopped taking it at a time when I was stable enough
to stay cheery on my own for a while.
jep
response 152 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 13:38 UTC 2002

I'm taking Zoloft and have been for about 7 months now.  I see my 
psychiatrist in a couple of weeks, and am expecting him to tell me to 
stay on it for another few months.  My therapist tells me I will not go 
back to being as depressed as I was when I started taking it, but I 
can't just quit taking it; I have to go through whatever their method 
is for stopping.  I intend to do that.

I've had one noticeable side effect; I've had almost no sexual desire 
for the entire time I've been taking it.  I hadn't had any plans to 
have an active sex life anyway, but it's pretty weird to go for a week 
or two at a time without a single lustful thought.  I have self-image 
problems anyway, and this contributes somewhat to them.

Zoloft can have other side effects as well, such as dizziness, 
increased appetite (which may well come from getting past the 
depression itself), lack of sleep, and headaches.
jep
response 153 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 13:40 UTC 2002

If you want the worst possible view of Zoloft, here's a site that says 
it causes sucide, aggression, hypertension, is addictive, and has other 
side effects I haven't read about:

http://www.zoloft-side-effects-lawyer.com/default.htm
slynne
response 154 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 13:55 UTC 2002

The side effects I had on Zoloft were:
decreased appetite (ok, I liked this one!)
no sex drive at all
blurred vision 

I went off Zoloft kind of by accident. I had a Rx for 6 months. I 
forgot to make my follow up appointment in time so I ran out of the 
Zoloft about a month before I could get into see the doctor. By the 
time I saw her, I had been off it for a while with no ill effects. I 
just stopped taking it and had no ill effects from that. 


lynne
response 155 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 15:15 UTC 2002

True on the decreased sex drive.  That's actually not a bad thing; with Don
across the country and potential temptation upstairs it's kind of a plus.
However, I'm definitely still capable of responding; just less likely to
initiate and don't miss it as much.  I'm not really noticing any appetite
effects.  My weight has changed slightly but this is due to it being off-
season for hockey more than anything else.
jep
response 156 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 15:41 UTC 2002

It's interesting that 3 of us in a row had a lack of sex drive while on 
Zoloft.  I had understood that to be uncommon, and not usually that 
severe.  I thought I was far outside the norm with that one.

It's a personal topic, but thanks for letting me know it happened to 
you as well.

slynne
response 157 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 17:04 UTC 2002

It was great. For 6 whole months I didnt wake up in some strange man's 
bed even once ;)
edina
response 158 of 170: Mark Unseen   Sep 12 17:55 UTC 2002

Slynne - the secret is to get up and go home to your own bed.
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