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Grex > Helpers > #140: Grex System Problems - Spring 2005 | |
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remmers
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response 134 of 457:
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Apr 24 21:15 UTC 2005 |
/var filled up, which breaks several things. I freed up some space.
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naftee
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response 135 of 457:
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Apr 24 21:30 UTC 2005 |
/dev/sd1g 7.0G 6.6G 357K 100% /var/mail
:(
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keesan
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response 136 of 457:
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Apr 25 16:09 UTC 2005 |
write failed, /var/... is full (in Pine).
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naftee
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response 137 of 457:
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Apr 26 01:44 UTC 2005 |
another reason why keesan shouldn't use a twit filter :(
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keesan
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response 138 of 457:
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Apr 26 21:33 UTC 2005 |
Var filling up is causing problems with lost mail. I have some names
whitelisted but there is no space to write their mail and something gets
truncated and the procmail filter continues with the same mail and throws it
out when it reaches another filter. I lost four mails each from two people
today. Can someone please fix mail soon? I am considering giving up on grex
mail otherwise. It is not fair to ask people to keep writing over and over.
This has been going on for at least a week. When will the new drive be
installed to replace the one that died. In the meantime I will tell everyone
whose mail was not received to write to another address next time.
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keesan
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response 139 of 457:
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Apr 26 21:34 UTC 2005 |
This is also generating messages about new mail and there is never any new
mail, at least not today.
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keesan
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response 140 of 457:
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Apr 26 21:58 UTC 2005 |
I just got another new mail message and no new mail. Several times already
today. I can't stop using my filter or the mailbox will fill with spam in
a few hours (including viruses or worms over 1M).
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keesan
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response 141 of 457:
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Apr 26 22:10 UTC 2005 |
Can /var/mail be given a larger drive? If my calculations are correct it is
occupying about an 8G right now.
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mary
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response 142 of 457:
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Apr 26 22:26 UTC 2005 |
Sindi, Grex mail is broken. We don't have staff time to fix it.
The prognosis is not good for a spam filter in the near future.
Asking for it to be fixed soon isn't going to make it happen.
If you need reliable mail you're not going to get it from Grex.
Move on.
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tod
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response 143 of 457:
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Apr 26 22:34 UTC 2005 |
What does "move on" mean?
Please replace the Grex website's blue ribbon with:
"If you need reliable mail you're not going to get it from Grex."
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marcvh
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response 144 of 457:
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Apr 26 22:36 UTC 2005 |
If you need reliable anything you're probably not going to get it from
a volunteer-run service.
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mary
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response 145 of 457:
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Apr 26 22:47 UTC 2005 |
Exactly. If you NEED mail, get a free account elsewhere. You'll
not be happy with what Grex can offer at the moment.
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mcnally
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response 146 of 457:
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Apr 26 22:54 UTC 2005 |
I'm sure Mary thinks she's simply being frank, and I appreciate
that the situation is difficult for staff and the board, but I
find her tone to be quite unnecessarily condescending and her negative
attitude seems pretty defeatist.
Instead of concluding that we don't have the resources, what if
we asked the community to help find the time and or materials
that are necessary?
I realize that staff time is limited under the best of circumstances
and that STeve's recent illness has only exacerbated the situation.
Have the staff and/or board considered asking the user community for
volunteers to help fix some of the more immediate issues? I'd be
willing to step up and volunteer some time if the system leadership
were receptive to reaching out and letting other people besides the
usual suspects work on the system problems.
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mary
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response 147 of 457:
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Apr 26 22:58 UTC 2005 |
Thanks, Mike. I know your efforts will be appreciated.
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tod
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response 148 of 457:
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Apr 26 22:59 UTC 2005 |
re #146
I'd be
willing to step up and volunteer some time if the system leadership
were receptive to reaching out and letting other people besides the
usual suspects work on the system problems.
I think that is the core of the problem and has been for a long time.
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keesan
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response 149 of 457:
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Apr 26 23:17 UTC 2005 |
I think all that mail needs is more space than is available on /var/mail.
It keeps filling up. Remmers moved some things off var - if there is nothing
else to be moved, can we add another drive until the next BSD version is
available?
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jor
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response 150 of 457:
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Apr 26 23:31 UTC 2005 |
www.yahoo.com
test me at jor48105@yahoo.com
Hints: free. Deals with crap like HTML and graphics.
Alternative: stamp your little feet and declare
yourself a "paying member" of grex,
which, I understand, accepts contributions.
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glenda
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response 151 of 457:
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Apr 26 23:35 UTC 2005 |
Increasing the space in /var/mail will only help for only a short time. The
new amount of space will just fill up the same as the smaller space. And,
we cannot increase the space anywhere until we get the new drive and get it
up and running. There just isn't any space to allocate to it right now.
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bru
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response 152 of 457:
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Apr 26 23:45 UTC 2005 |
I find your lack of faith...Disturbing.
Darth Grex
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keesan
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response 153 of 457:
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Apr 27 00:31 UTC 2005 |
I tried yahoo mail and hated it. Webmail is always slow and annoying.
Eventually a systemwide spam filter will drastically reduce the amount of
unread and unwanted mail sitting in unused accounts and free up space.
What is keeping grex from installing a new drive sooner? There was something
about a new drive being saved for a new BSD installation but what would it
cost to have two new drives?
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jep
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response 154 of 457:
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Apr 27 00:33 UTC 2005 |
M-Net seems to have enough space for e-mail.
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mcnally
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response 155 of 457:
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Apr 27 00:35 UTC 2005 |
I believe that reducing the amount of incoming Spam will dramatically
reduce the demand for mail storage space and finding ways to block
some of it will be an important step towards a sustainable mail service.
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paull
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response 156 of 457:
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Apr 28 19:07 UTC 2005 |
(This is actually davel, using paull's account to post this.
You'll see why in a moment.)
This is very, very strange. Grex has apparently been down now for a couple
of days. I can't connect to it at all via the internet. Grace (gracel) has
been trying to dial in. Yesterday she got no connection. Today she
was able to connect, but it kept telling her that her login was incorrect.
I was able to duplicate this. But then she tried it with Paul (paull)'s
account, & it let her in. I have, obviously, reproduced this behavior,
too.
Now comes the really weird part. Wondering if somehow Grace & I had
gotten deleted from the password file, I tried the following:
egrep '(davel)|(gracel)' /etc/passwd
davel:*:2681:1002:Dave Lovelace:/a/d/a/davel:/bin/bash
gracel:*:2731:1002:Grace Lovelace:/a/g/r/gracel:/bin/bash
But if I scan for paull (to which I'm logged in right now, remember)
or for my other son, Jon (kingjon), it finds nothing in the password
file. But I can log in as paull, even though there's no entry in /etc/passwd.
I see that there is no /a mounted (& gracel's & my home dirs in /etc/passwd
are under /a), that logged in as paull (no /etc/passwd entry) I find myself
in what looks like Paul's home directory, but it's /grex/a/p/a/paull -
and that /grex/a/d/a/davel and /grex/a/g/r/gracel do exist. I suspect
that this may have something to do with the "incorrect login" messages.
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gelinas
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response 157 of 457:
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Apr 30 08:19 UTC 2005 |
On Wednesday, April 27, 2005, STeve Andre wrote, in a message:
} Someone did something to use up all the CPU. You can start an ssh telnet
} or ftp session but nothing ever starts so its brain dead at the moment.
Attmepts to reboot the machine failed. When we did get the machine to
reboot, we discovered that "the pw database's in a totally inconsistent
state. /etc/passwd had about 1137 entries in it, and the database files were
of different lenghts. This means the passwd system was in chaos, . . . "
(STeve, in a message dated April 29, 2005). Which is why some people could
log on, but others couldn't.
At or about 02:42 this morning (April 30, 205), STeve wrote: " Grex is up at
the moment. The damage done with the accounts can be fixed this weekend or
not, but it won't affect all the other accounts. Better to have Grex up now
for the majority of people on Grex."
There appear to be some problems with newuser, so it has been turned off
until the problems can be investigated and repaired. The web newuser program
is also disabled.
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russ
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response 158 of 457:
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Apr 30 11:41 UTC 2005 |
As long as newuser is down anyway, it's time to splat the trolls.
I want to note here that NOBODY updated the hvcn status page nor
the main Grex page with any information whatsoever since Wednesday.
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