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furs
response 134 of 278: Mark Unseen   May 21 15:42 UTC 2004

Has anyone seen Troy?
twenex
response 135 of 278: Mark Unseen   May 21 15:47 UTC 2004

I'm off to see it tonite.
gull
response 136 of 278: Mark Unseen   May 21 16:19 UTC 2004

I haven't.  I did get a good chuckle out of one reviewer that commented
that Diane Kruger "has a face that could launch 250 ships, maybe 500 at
most."

gull
response 137 of 278: Mark Unseen   May 21 16:19 UTC 2004

I saw _Shrek 2_.  Loved it.  If you liked the first one, you'll like
this one too.  It's more of the same, only better.
mcnally
response 138 of 278: Mark Unseen   May 21 17:02 UTC 2004

  re #136:  I thought that line was moderately amusing in the first 
  review in which I read it, but by the time I'd gotten to the fourth
  or fifth review its charms had completely disappeared..
twenex
response 139 of 278: Mark Unseen   May 21 17:04 UTC 2004

Heh.
twenex
response 140 of 278: Mark Unseen   May 22 15:56 UTC 2004

Troy: Excellent.

Saddle my horse, the epic is back!
md
response 141 of 278: Mark Unseen   May 23 14:47 UTC 2004

Two recent rentals we missed in the theaters:

RUSSIAN ARK (A) - A Russian director's loving homage to Russian culture 
and The Hermitage, the big museum in Leningrad (St. Petersburg to you 
capitalist pigs).  The camera travels from room to room -- 37 of them 
in all -- following a European snob (Russian actor doing what I suppose 
sounds to Russian ears like a French accent) and his invisible Russian 
companion (the voice of the director, from whose POV the movie is 
seen).  There we see personages and incidents from 300 years of Russian 
history.  The movie is 90 minutes long, and although it took four years 
to prepare, the actual shooting was done in one single 90-minute-long 
take.  I knew beforehand that that's how the movie had been shot, but I 
didn't beieve it until I actually saw it.  The final 15 minutes, in 
which about a thousand actors dressed in period costumes dance the last 
dance at a grand ball then make their way down the huge double-
staircase and off the stage of history forever, is one of the most 
beautiful things I've ever seen in a movie.  (This is one movie where 
the interviews and "making of" documentary in the Special Features are 
just as interestng as the movie itself.)

CALENDAR GIRLS (B) - A trying-not-to-look-exploitive movie about the 
middle-aged English garden club ladies who made a nude calendar of 
themselves to raise money for a good cause.  Helen Mirren is excellent 
as the ageing egotistical wild child whose idea the whole thing is.  
Lots of false sentimentality and other commercial phoniness, but really 
no worse than most other movies.  Plus, the Brit's eye view of American 
glitz is priceless.
rcurl
response 142 of 278: Mark Unseen   May 23 15:24 UTC 2004

Troy was pretty well done, especially if you like mass (and individual) 
slauterings. Also, the book was better (having survived for a couple of
millenia-plus, which I doubt the movie will). But it was moderately
faithful to the book(s) - except for omitting Cassandra, who killed
Agamemnon *after* he took her back to Greece. 

twenex
response 143 of 278: Mark Unseen   May 23 16:45 UTC 2004

In Troy's defence, the director does include the caveat at the beginnign of
the end (credits) that the story was *inspired* by The Iliad, a level of
honesty you don't find in 3rd-rate Tolkien-inspired fantasy.
realugly
response 144 of 278: Mark Unseen   May 23 17:02 UTC 2004

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remmers
response 145 of 278: Mark Unseen   May 23 17:26 UTC 2004

Haven't seen "Troy", but as I understand it the movie has no supernatural
beings (a.k.a. gods).  They were pretty important characters in The Iliad.
twenex
response 146 of 278: Mark Unseen   May 23 17:27 UTC 2004

There aren't any people in the film playing Gods, but it's hardly a secular
travesty of the book; several are mentioned quite often.
realugly
response 147 of 278: Mark Unseen   May 23 17:34 UTC 2004

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mcnally
response 148 of 278: Mark Unseen   May 23 17:47 UTC 2004

  re #142:  Agamemnon was killed by Clytemnestra, with the help of her
            lover Aegisthus.

            Cassandra was pretty much a one-device character, though
            it's a great device: always (accurately) foretelling
            misfortune and never being believed..
rcurl
response 149 of 278: Mark Unseen   May 23 19:08 UTC 2004

The characters are doing all sorts of things because of and on behalf of
their gods, and statues of them abound. One would interpret from the movie
that much in their society was heavily influenced by their beliefs in gods.

Aha! I will speak to my resident expert on Greek myths, who told me
Cassandra slew Agememnon. However, she was close: Clymtemnestra slew
both Agemenon and Cassandra. 

At least it was faithful to Achilles' heel, which everyone knows about
and therefore had to be kept (at least, everyone knows Achilles had a
heel....).
twenex
response 150 of 278: Mark Unseen   May 23 19:09 UTC 2004

Heh. One review my Dad read said they made no mention of the heel. D'Oh!
realugly
response 151 of 278: Mark Unseen   May 23 19:22 UTC 2004

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rcurl
response 152 of 278: Mark Unseen   May 23 20:01 UTC 2004

They didn't *mention* the heel, but it was shown clearly that an arrow
shot by Paris penetrated Achilles' heel. 

Did the actor portraying Achilles perform all those calesthetics in
battle, or were some done by stuntmen - or even computer generated?
twenex
response 153 of 278: Mark Unseen   May 23 20:02 UTC 2004

"The actor portraying Achilles"?! Are you telling us you never heard of Brad
Pitt?!
realugly
response 154 of 278: Mark Unseen   May 23 20:05 UTC 2004

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rcurl
response 155 of 278: Mark Unseen   May 24 05:45 UTC 2004

Wasn't Pitt the actor portraying Achilles?
twenex
response 156 of 278: Mark Unseen   May 24 05:50 UTC 2004

I believe I just said that...
realugly
response 157 of 278: Mark Unseen   May 24 06:15 UTC 2004

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edina
response 158 of 278: Mark Unseen   May 24 18:51 UTC 2004

Brad Pitt worked out to get in shape to play Achilles for a year previous to
filming.
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