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kerouac
response 129 of 186: Mark Unseen   Nov 25 18:50 UTC 1996

But would "Benefactors" get the usual member perks (other than 
voting?)
aruba
response 130 of 186: Mark Unseen   Nov 25 20:11 UTC 1996

I have indeed changed the name on the account "convocat" to be The Magical
Education Council of Ann Arbor.
dang
response 131 of 186: Mark Unseen   Nov 25 21:00 UTC 1996

This item is linked to coop 9
rcurl
response 132 of 186: Mark Unseen   Nov 25 22:18 UTC 1996

You don't need to amend the bylaws to create a non-member designation like
Benefactors (I'd start with Supporters, however). "Member like" does not
count. Only classes of membership belong in the bylaws. While anyone (or
anything) could be a Supporter (Benefactor, starting at $10,000/a...), there
is some attraction for corporate users to be considered members. The
Institutional Membership that I have suggested would serve this purpose,
even without the right to vote. Non-member Supporters give only money;
Members, of whatever stripe, give more than money - a degree of belief in
the purposes of the organization.
janc
response 133 of 186: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 05:15 UTC 1996

That's a good point.  But we might need to clarify that members must be
individuals.  Though that is pretty clear to me as written.
chelsea
response 134 of 186: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 22:55 UTC 1996

A non-member group or organization donor catagory would 
be quite nice.  As long as we don't get into the business
of selecting which groups we approve of and which we don't.
Would folks have a problem with the Nazi party donating
and becoming sponsoring group?  I wouldn't.  Either we
should allow any group or no groups.
tsty
response 135 of 186: Mark Unseen   Nov 29 05:32 UTC 1996

i see no problem with either 123 individuals joining as members who
also happen to be members of the same, but different (i.e., not grex)
organization. well, i guess i *do* see a 'problem.' however that problem
has always existed. 
 
the rest of the 'either' is one ppl joining to represent the views of
122 other ppl who also happen to be members of .......
  
if there is a 'membership with voting rights requested' that loginid votes
and receives whatever other benefits membership includes. 
  
i *am* a bit surprised that teh owner of convocat was given no choice
as tothe attached (chfn) name! at first blush that *appears* to smack
of an un-grexian approach UNLESS (and i do NOT know) aruba is the
owner of   convocat. apologies in advance if convocat is aruba's other
account.
  
since grex welcomes all, (shudder) dominos could be a member with
single, full voting privileges and dominos and the nazis could hvae
their own conference for all that matters as far as grex is concerned.
  
besides, no one has tackeled the question about corporations being
legally classified as "people."
dang
response 136 of 186: Mark Unseen   Nov 29 18:15 UTC 1996

Tsty, you were confusing the "Real name" attached to a account, the
"Conference Name" attached to an account, and the "Who owns the account" name
that is maintained purely by and for the treasurer, and is based on the id
given with the account.  It was this last, which only the treasurer controls,
that was set to the person who registered the convocat account.
aruba
response 137 of 186: Mark Unseen   Nov 30 03:46 UTC 1996

dang is correct.
tsty
response 138 of 186: Mark Unseen   Nov 30 07:05 UTC 1996

oh?
  
grep convo /etc/passwd
  
convocat:x:6287:50:Magical Education Council of Ann
Arbor:/home/convocat:/usr/local/bin/tcsh

i guess i am confused - !really confused.
scg
response 139 of 186: Mark Unseen   Nov 30 07:34 UTC 1996

I think the name in /etc/passwd was there before, put there by some user of
the convocat account.  What aruba did was to change his records to agree with
that.
robh
response 140 of 186: Mark Unseen   Nov 30 07:49 UTC 1996

Right.  aruba (wrongly) assumed that the account was owned by Kami,
since she'd sent the check.  The account's full name was always
MECAA.
janc
response 141 of 186: Mark Unseen   Nov 30 16:16 UTC 1996

I think that record dates from danr.
tsty
response 142 of 186: Mark Unseen   Dec 1 06:43 UTC 1996

aruba?
robh
response 143 of 186: Mark Unseen   Dec 1 17:24 UTC 1996

#141 is probably true; if so, my apologies to aruba for implicating him.
srw
response 144 of 186: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 18:08 UTC 1996

Yes, Mark explained back at the beginning of this whole issue that the 
"situation" of having two voting accounts belonging to the same person 
is a situation that he inherited.
tsty
response 145 of 186: Mark Unseen   Dec 7 07:51 UTC 1996

aruba?
srw
response 146 of 186: Mark Unseen   Dec 7 16:23 UTC 1996

Yes, Mark (aruba) Conger
ladyevil
response 147 of 186: Mark Unseen   Dec 9 03:39 UTC 1996

I think Tsty is calling for Mark to come out and say something..
davel
response 148 of 186: Mark Unseen   Dec 9 11:48 UTC 1996

Ok, but why?
popcorn
response 149 of 186: Mark Unseen   Dec 10 21:29 UTC 1996

For verification, I guess.
tsty
response 150 of 186: Mark Unseen   Dec 29 07:59 UTC 1996

not a bad guess, really. a guess though.
tsty
response 151 of 186: Mark Unseen   Jan 30 06:43 UTC 1997

well, after all this time, at least a curiosity.
aruba
response 152 of 186: Mark Unseen   May 12 19:10 UTC 1997

Sorry, didn't mean to leave you hanging TS - yes, the situation with convocat
was one I inherited from danr (i.e., Dan had recorded "Kami Landy" as the name
associated with the convocat account, and I assumed that meant that convocat
was Kami's pseudo.  (I think I heard someone else refer to it as such, too.))
What I did last fall was change the name in the treasurer's records from
"Kami Landy" to "Magical Education Council of Ann Arbor".  I certainly didn't
run chfn on the account (I don't even have the system privileges to do that).

I hope I haven't reopened this can of worms by responding to this item.  :)
tsty
response 153 of 186: Mark Unseen   May 13 06:20 UTC 1997

no , quite teh opposite ... you canned shut the potential for worms <g>
thankxxx
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