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cross
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response 127 of 149:
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Jan 23 23:41 UTC 2006 |
I think, that while it's possible that terrorists could use grex, it's
pretty unlikely. Why wouldn't they go for something easier?
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mcnally
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response 128 of 149:
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Jan 23 23:45 UTC 2006 |
Well, one thing we know about Grex is that "It gets easier.."
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marcvh
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response 129 of 149:
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Jan 24 00:11 UTC 2006 |
Maybe there's a sleeper cell in the 734 area code who isn't very well
funded and can't afford a real ISP.
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tod
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response 130 of 149:
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Jan 24 00:17 UTC 2006 |
Maybe GMail is only a matter of time and AOL and Yahoo mail are obviously not
viable communication mediums?
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cross
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response 131 of 149:
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Jan 24 00:45 UTC 2006 |
For what, though? Yahoo and AOL might be the obvious choices. Steganographic
techniques are still pretty effective. Not to mention random postings on
blogs, and the like. Terrorists communicating via Bill O'Reilly's blog would
almost be poetic.
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mcnally
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response 132 of 149:
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Jan 24 01:26 UTC 2006 |
If I were part of al Qaeda I'd make sure to hide my messages in freerepublic
posts..
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tod
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response 133 of 149:
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Jan 24 07:43 UTC 2006 |
Why hide them? *snicker*
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other
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response 134 of 149:
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Jan 24 23:11 UTC 2006 |
I thought it was pretty obvious by now that terrorists DO communicate
via Bill O'Reilly's blog.
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mcnally
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response 135 of 149:
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Jan 25 00:00 UTC 2006 |
Yes, but we're talking about so-called "Islamo-fascists",
not the regular kind.
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tod
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response 136 of 149:
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Jan 25 04:38 UTC 2006 |
Fornier seems more like a Sean Hannity type...
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wlevak
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response 137 of 149:
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Mar 18 05:04 UTC 2006 |
OK, here is a simple verification scheme. New users get a restricted account.
To get the unrestricted account, they must send Grex a self addressed stamped
envelope. Someone at Grex sends them in this envelope, a computer generated
random password. The user must report this password online to the Grex staff
who then removes the restrictions. Perhaps this last step could be automated.
This process uses the postal service to verify the name and address of the
user, or at least that the name and address are valid and the user is
receiving mail there.
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fuzzball
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response 138 of 149:
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Mar 30 14:26 UTC 2006 |
I think i get around 3 - 5 help requests every few days asking about
how to get outgoing mail. I tell them is down for now for new users.
so i was thinking about something.
would it be hard to setup a database of longtime trusted users <those
of us that have been here since mid 90's> to have outgoing and
incoming e-mail privilages, and those who are new <within a few
months> not alowed outgoing/incoming e-mail unless they pay for an
account here?
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keesan
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response 139 of 149:
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Mar 30 18:04 UTC 2006 |
How about a new category of half-member, who pays $3/month for outgoing mail
and does not get telnet or ftp privileges? If spammers are not willing to
pay $6/month, probably they would not pay $3 either.
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kingjon
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response 140 of 149:
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Mar 30 18:41 UTC 2006 |
I think making them pay for it may be unnecessary. Simply require some sort of
verification -- a couple of cents from Paypal could be one way (Paypal adds a
random number of cents to your bank account, then asks you how many it added,
to verify that it is in fact yours), while meeting someone official in person
could be another. The typing-in-a-word-on-the-screen thing could be a first
line of defense.
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keesan
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response 141 of 149:
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Mar 31 03:36 UTC 2006 |
Paypal does not work with the three browsers I tried it with (the ones at
grex).
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fuzzball
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response 142 of 149:
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Apr 2 05:05 UTC 2006 |
yea, and i know a lot of people arent comfortable using paypal, or
other means of online payment, and that may not have checking accounts
or access to a moneyorder.
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kingjon
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response 143 of 149:
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Apr 2 09:58 UTC 2006 |
That's why I suggested it as "one way."
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keesan
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response 144 of 149:
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Apr 2 14:44 UTC 2006 |
Another way is to send a dollar bill in the mail.
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kingjon
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response 145 of 149:
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Apr 2 18:25 UTC 2006 |
The trouble with that, unfortunately, is that it a) requires someone to sort
through it and b) isn't really authentication, just a hoop to jump through,
like the typing-in-the-word thing. The three advantages to Paypal are that they
do authentication for us, one person couldn't use more than one (Paypal)
account (so we'd know if one person were setting up a thousand accounts with
email), and it would be relatively easy (I suppose) to automate. This is not to
say that Paypal ought to be our only method.
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mcnally
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response 146 of 149:
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Apr 2 19:53 UTC 2006 |
I'm not sure it follows that the phishers (who seemed to have been
the biggest mail problem-users before we shut things down for new
users) won't have access to multiple identities to register with..
However it's probably sufficient to make registration for mail
cumbersome enough and difficult to automate to discourage the
majority of the problem users.
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kingjon
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response 147 of 149:
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Apr 2 20:49 UTC 2006 |
(My references to automation were on the system staff end -- part of objections
to previous suggestions was that the staff are volunteers and can't afford to
devote large amounts of time to Grex.)
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sholmes
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response 148 of 149:
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Apr 3 08:21 UTC 2006 |
I dont understand. I have 3 paypal accounts.
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jesuit
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response 149 of 149:
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May 17 02:16 UTC 2006 |
TROGG IS DAVID BLAINE
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