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mziemba
response 125 of 206: Mark Unseen   Oct 26 17:29 UTC 1997

Hmmmm...it's almost 1p, now...maybe I'll flip on the radio...
jiffer
response 126 of 206: Mark Unseen   Oct 27 03:36 UTC 1997

i heard that! I didn't know they did some of the music for the English
Peteint, great movie with great music.

I am currently getting interested in Egyptian vocalistic music... so if you
know anything, casn recomend anything, etc... give me a e of a mail.  More
to come as i get educated and aquainted wiht this.
orinoco
response 127 of 206: Mark Unseen   Oct 28 23:55 UTC 1997

Yeah, let me know what you run across.  All I've seen in this regard are some
vocal samples on My Life in the Bush of Ghosts - hardly a representative
sample -but I'm quite curious.
krj
response 128 of 206: Mark Unseen   Nov 21 19:26 UTC 1997

Q for Mike McNally: what, if anything, do you know about a ska anthology
titled THE THIRD WAVE on Shanachie?  It was being played in Borders, 
sounded kind of catchy...
 
In general I'd be curious for recommendations for some ska albums which 
won't trigger my audiophile allergies...  a lot of the classic ska 
such as Desmond Dekker seems to have been recorded in lo-fi 
circumstances.
mcnally
response 129 of 206: Mark Unseen   Nov 22 04:21 UTC 1997

  I'm afraid lo-fi is pretty much what you get with the best early ska
  recordings -- the musicians recorded in tiny studios under less-than-ideal
  conditions on shoestring budgets and until fairly late in the game when
  some of the bigger producer figures dominated the recording scene 
  production was minimal and primitive.  Chris Goosman might be better
  qualified to comment on this than I am, seeing as he's both a ska fan
  *and* a recording-engineer-type-person..

  I don't know anything specifically about "The Third Wave" but usually
  "Third Wave" ska is fairly recent (the original Jamaican ska was the
  first wave, the Two Tone bands like The Specials & The (English) Beat
  were the second, and the third wave encompasses as much as late 80's
  to the present..)  I'm more into "first wave" ska than any of the others,
  however I'd be more than happy to put together a listening list and a
  stack of CDs for you to borrow..
orinoco
response 130 of 206: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 17:34 UTC 1997

Hmm...Most ska fans I know tend to be pretty insulting towards Third Wave,
but I really haven't heard much earlier to compare it to, so I wouldn't know
myself.
mcnally
response 131 of 206: Mark Unseen   Nov 23 18:30 UTC 1997

 It tends to work better live.  I don't think the third wave recordings
 have the staying power of the classic first wave stuff (or even that of
 the 2nd wave stuff, much of which still sounds good to me..)
diznave
response 132 of 206: Mark Unseen   Nov 24 20:03 UTC 1997

Dan, I recommend some of The Wailers early stuff. They made some good 'first
wave' ska. Its fairly easy to find. I think there's even some on Bob Marley's
box set.
mcnally
response 133 of 206: Mark Unseen   Nov 25 14:48 UTC 1997

 (Dan?)

 I'm a Skatalites fanatic.  Haven't been wowed by anything they've done
 lately but I think their early work was the backbone of the ska scene.
krj
response 134 of 206: Mark Unseen   Nov 25 17:45 UTC 1997

Oh dear.  And here I am listening to The Skatalites/HI-BOP SKA, 
billed as "The 30th Anniversary Recording," from 1994.  
I picked this one out because it has jazz player Monty Alexander
playing on piano on several tracks, and Leslie & I like him a lot.

The sound quality is beautiful, heh.  There was another recording 
over at Flat Black & Circular, which was supposed to be most of 
The Skatalites playing under a different name -- maybe I'll go pick 
that up after lunch.

(For some odd reason, some of my shopping has been influenced by 
mcnally this month.)
mcnally
response 135 of 206: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 02:14 UTC 1997

 My birthday's in November so that's when my amazing mind-control
 powers are at their peak.  

 There's nothing particularly wrong with "Hi-Bop Ska", especially if
 you're not familiar with the earlier stuff.  I just think the earlier
 stuff is more creative and energetic, at this point in their careers
 they don't have a lot new to say.  They still put on a great show, though..  
goose
response 136 of 206: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 19:14 UTC 1997

That is soooooo true Mike.  I consider myself to be *extremely* luck to have
actually seen the Skatalites once, but I've been able to see them nearly a
half a dozen times.  In some ways it's like watching my grandfather on stage.

The 'lo-fi'-ness of the "first wave" or "traditional" ska is just a symptom
of the recording conditions of the day in Jamaica.  Also, the fact that many
of the versions that get released are many generations removed from the
'original masters'.  The technology they were using in the early to mid 60's
was roughly equal to what the US had in the early 50's.  The music shines
through in any case.

I'd pretty much follow Mike's Ska Timeline (tm) with a small exception at the
end.  Third wave I'd hazard ended in the early 90's (92ish) and now most
modern ska is a blend of genres i.e. Ska-Core, or Punk-Ska.  A good example
of post-third wave is The Mighty Mighty Bosstones, or Buck O'Nine.

Locally we have an excellent outfit called the Articles who are more in the
traditional vein of Ska with a little third wave thrown in.
orinoco
response 137 of 206: Mark Unseen   Nov 26 23:17 UTC 1997

I've heard people refer to a 'fourth wave' of Ska - would the Ska-Core, etc.
that you refer to be what they're talking about?
goose
response 138 of 206: Mark Unseen   Nov 27 05:15 UTC 1997

yep, sorry.  i meant to mention the new ska is the 'fourth wave'
orinoco
response 139 of 206: Mark Unseen   Nov 27 19:32 UTC 1997

Aha.  It all becomes clear.
eeyore
response 140 of 206: Mark Unseen   Nov 29 08:30 UTC 1997

Well, I'm a little disappointed in Mark now...:)  Unless I scanned past it,
he never mentioned Seamus Egan....If any of you have seen the movie Brothers
McMullen, He did all of the music for it, plus as done instruomental
backgrounds for many other artists.  He's a Celtic instomentulist....plays
probably 10 or more instroments....Wonderful music...:)

There's a german a-capella group calle Prinzen that's really wonderful...but
I don't know if it's possible to get any of their stuff in America...
krj
response 141 of 206: Mark Unseen   Dec 1 05:11 UTC 1997

Probably any mention of Seamus Egan would be in the Celtic music item.
We must keep our pigeonholes straight and tidy!
 
Wednesday, I picked up that other ska album I'd mentioned, TRICIA & THE 
SUPERSONICS.  Supposedly the Supersonics are the Skatalites under 
another name.  This disc seems fairly lifeless to me; Tricia sounds 
like she was recorded using authentic early 60's Jamaica studio 
technology.  
 
There's a party denizen named TwoTone who thinks most stuff on the 
Moon Ska records label should be pretty good, but this album was a bust.
 
I did hear, at Schoolkids today, a decent-sounding compilation of the 
Skatalites; this is new on one of the Rounder Records imprints, a 
2-CD set.
mziemba
response 142 of 206: Mark Unseen   Dec 1 06:00 UTC 1997

We have a Celtic music item?  Gosh, I didn't even know...
 
I saw Solas when they were in town a year or so ago.  Ms. Horan, their
fiddler, was very generous and spent quite a bit of time talking with some
folks after the show.  I've been meaning to pick up a Cherish the Ladies
album, sometime (another band that Horan was in).
mziemba
response 143 of 206: Mark Unseen   Dec 1 06:00 UTC 1997

And, wow...thanks for coming over, Megan!
orinoco
response 144 of 206: Mark Unseen   Dec 1 21:55 UTC 1997

Of course we have a celtic music item, silly.
lumen
response 145 of 206: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 07:11 UTC 1997

I'm sure Mark was being sarcastic..haven't you posted over there, Mark?
mziemba
response 146 of 206: Mark Unseen   Dec 2 16:15 UTC 1997

No, I haven't, actually.  But that's easily corrected...
diznave
response 147 of 206: Mark Unseen   Dec 3 17:40 UTC 1997

Actually, can anybody think of a style of music that we *don't* have an item
for? We appear to have quite the diverse selection.
orinoco
response 148 of 206: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 02:32 UTC 1997

Australian?  Polka?  Gregorian Chant?
mcnally
response 149 of 206: Mark Unseen   Dec 4 05:35 UTC 1997

 re #147:  You don't want to throw out a challenge like that in this
 newsgroup, really..

 there're plenty of styles for which we don't have a corresponding item,
 including many of my favorites.  we do get around to discussing quite
 a lot, though..
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