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remmers
response 125 of 172: Mark Unseen   Feb 22 05:19 UTC 1997

The motion to allow unregistered reading of Grex conferences via
the World Wide Web failed: 16 for, 24 against. See item 54 in
Coop for more detail.
valerie
response 126 of 172: Mark Unseen   Feb 22 21:27 UTC 1997

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tsty
response 127 of 172: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 09:16 UTC 1997

what i have preferred to explain, getting out of help chat, is to
use ctrl-c instad of ctrl-d. true, both work, but ctrl-c is a safer exit.
davel
response 128 of 172: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 12:42 UTC 1997

How so?
valerie
response 129 of 172: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 14:11 UTC 1997

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valerie
response 130 of 172: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 14:12 UTC 1997

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e4808mc
response 131 of 172: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 14:31 UTC 1997

Or the wrong one, perhaps :-(.
janc
response 132 of 172: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 17:10 UTC 1997

Re #127: This is definately matter-of=taste territory, but I've always
felt control-D is a cleaner way to exit that control-C.  Control-D means
"end of text" and is received by a program as a termination of the input
stream.  Control-C is an interupt, almost alike hitting ctrl-alt-del on
your DOS box (though a little less harsh than that).  It's an abnormal
exit condition.  We written programs should handle both properly, but
I've seen cases where exiting with control-C causes programs to stop
without quite finishing up the last command you issued.  On the other
hand, I've also seen programs that go into infinite loops if you try to
stop them with control-D (though that requires *really* poor
programming).
scott
response 133 of 172: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 17:24 UTC 1997

control-D can also log you out, which is why some don't like using it.
n8nxf
response 134 of 172: Mark Unseen   Feb 24 22:28 UTC 1997

Yea, that happens to me when there is a significant delay in the system's
responce.
tsty
response 135 of 172: Mark Unseen   Feb 25 09:14 UTC 1997

...and ctrl-d is sometimes intercepted and acted upon *upstream* from
where you want the desired action to take place, therefore, ctrl-c
is what my recommendation has been. 
  
and, isn't it also true that 'interrupt' is *designed* to stop a
process even if that process is not naturally funished? 
valerie
response 136 of 172: Mark Unseen   Feb 25 22:29 UTC 1997

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remmers
response 137 of 172: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 12:57 UTC 1997

Voting is now underway on a new proposal to allow read-only
access to Grex conferences by unregistered users. Type  vote 
at a Unix shell prompt or  !vote  at a bbs or menu prompt for
further info or to cast a ballot. See Item 55 in the Coop
conference for discussion of the proposal

Note that while any user can cast a ballot, only votes by voting
members in good standing will be counted in determining the
outcome.

Voting ends at the end of the day (EST) on March 12.
tsty
response 138 of 172: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 15:51 UTC 1997

what i type is:
  
use your interrupt, ctrl-c, unless you changed it.
  
what is the problem with windows and ctrl-c? new info to me.
mta
response 139 of 172: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 19:46 UTC 1997

Dunno what the problem is exactly, TS, but I can't get a Ctrl+C to work.  It
simply has no effect.  (I didn't know it was a windows problem, though.  It
seems recent.
scg
response 140 of 172: Mark Unseen   Feb 26 20:54 UTC 1997

Are you using Windows Terminal?
remmers
response 141 of 172: Mark Unseen   Feb 27 14:21 UTC 1997

Right -- Windows Terminal (the comm. program that comes with MS
Windows 3.1) by default doesn't pass control characters on to
the remote host. One can change this in one of the pull-down
menus. Very poor choice of default on Microsoft's part, and a
source of endless confusion.
valerie
response 142 of 172: Mark Unseen   Feb 27 16:44 UTC 1997

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tsty
response 143 of 172: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 11:15 UTC 1997

gawk - windows terminal. sheesh. mta i have a much better solution
for you. we'll be intouch.
davel
response 144 of 172: Mark Unseen   Feb 28 12:04 UTC 1997

Well, the price is right ...
janc
response 145 of 172: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 14:10 UTC 1997

I remember someone having problems with write not sending their message. 
They'd do a "write whomever", type the message, and hit control-C.  When the
system was slow, the message never got sent.  This is because write was still
starting up and hadn't actually read their message when it got the interupt,
so it exited without ever sending it.  This won't happen with control-D,
because it isn't an interupt, it is just input.  The program won't be stopped
by the control-D until it reaches that point in the input stream.
davel
response 146 of 172: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 15:04 UTC 1997

Isn't that what tel is for?
dang
response 147 of 172: Mark Unseen   Mar 1 19:16 UTC 1997

You can't send multiple lines with tel, just a wrapped single line.
valerie
response 148 of 172: Mark Unseen   Mar 2 16:25 UTC 1997

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valerie
response 149 of 172: Mark Unseen   Mar 3 04:02 UTC 1997

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