response 125 of 165:

Oct 30 21:32 UTC 1997

I agree Rob's swoosh is better; I'm willing to leave the .org swoosh 
off, I'm not powerfully committed either way.
 
I agree with srw that the middle sticker (bumper4) is the way to go.
 
Folks with great font libraries, feel free to play with the 
www.cyberspace.org text.  
 
I'm thinking in terms of trying to take our master copy to 
Stanley Sawicki in Detroit in about a week..

response 127 of 165:

Nov 4 17:24 UTC 1997

I think it would be very cool if someone else (perhaps Rob) would print 
out camera ready copy for krj. I have no more time to spend on it. 
However, if no one can do it, I will print out what I have when it is 
needed. At this point I'm figuring we'll drop the swoosh, unless there 
are a lot of complaints.

response 129 of 165:

Nov 5 09:52 UTC 1997

I need to call Sawicki and get the exact dimensions for the sticker.

response 133 of 165:

Nov 12 04:46 UTC 1997

A digression, back to the logos.  I played with the Very Large Black and
Grayscale Logos today, and I put together a first draft of the long-
promised music conference flyer.
 
Both logos have problems in B&W flyers.  In the Greyscale logo, the 
"G R E X" letters are the dimmest elements in the display; as I 
shrink the logo down to a useable size, about 1/8 of the gif on the 
web page, they pretty much vanish.  (I'm doing my shrinking in 
.jpg form, as we discussed earlier.)
 
The all Black & White version of the logo shrinks nicely, but 
because there is no shading distinction between the building 
pillars and the "G R E X" letters, the name of our organization 
looks kind of like    "  G I R I E I X  ".

My proposal is that somebody more skilled than me in graphics 
come up with a version using grayscale building elements, but a 
solid black "G R E X" lettering.
 
If this new version could be made available on the web in smaller 
sizes suitable for flyers and bookmarks, that would be a help to me 
too.  Thanks for your consideration... in the meantime I am going 
to have a few flyers made from my draft, as soon as I figure out how 
to get Word 97 to de-clickify something.
 
  (Can you believe it?  Word 97 is "clickifying"  
   http://www.cyberspace.org    ON MY FLYER.  ON MY HARDCOPY PRINT.
   I suppose that in windows 98 one will be able to put the mouse 
   right on the sheet of paper and click on the link.)

response 135 of 165:

Nov 12 10:13 UTC 1997

(Indeed. Word 97 makes all kinds of uncalled-for assumptions
about what I want, and seems to think it is smarter than I am.)

response 139 of 165:

Nov 17 01:15 UTC 1997

Yup!  I forget precisely what it was called, but I found the auto-correct
features pretty directly with the aid of the built-in help function.
The product ships with just about every auto-correct feature turned on.

response 141 of 165:

Nov 18 00:06 UTC 1997

Some of the autocorrect features, like changing teh to the, are quite useful.
Of course, I couldn't have written this response with them turned on.

response 143 of 165:

Nov 18 16:41 UTC 1997

Thanks, Valerie!  I'll try to incorporate one or more of these in 
my next flyer print run.
 
Did you try any of them in the bumper sticker?
 
To get the bumper sticker unstuck: what sort of 8x14 paper should I 
go buy and deliver to you, for printing of the master?

response 145 of 165:

Nov 20 00:52 UTC 1997

Well, I don't know where you get 14.5 inch paper.  Another idea I had was to 
split the bumper sticker in the black space just to the right of the 
white/black fade, and print it in two pieces.

response 147 of 165:

Nov 21 04:26 UTC 1997

first of all, the bumper sticker physical dimensions are not hte
dimensions *abailable* for printing .. there are margins
and stuff , ok.
  
second, if the RATIO of the print is kept at the
ratio of the physical dimensions of hte bumper sticker, then
the printer *ought* to be able to scale things correctly.
  
thirdly, even if you print on 11 inch paper,  - at FULL scale - 
(and let the print bleed off the end of hte paper), print it twice:
so that each print, wen cut-n-pasted (physically at the printer's)
will assemble into a full sized master.
  
oh, when you print the original twice .. flip the 2nd
print 180 degrees so the *other* end gets bled off the paper <g>.
  

response 149 of 165:

Nov 24 19:21 UTC 1997

grex.org works for me.  I've got one of the authorative name servers for it,
so that might not be a good test, but all the other name servers have the same
information.  Is it still not working for you?  What do you get instead?